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Re: CT scans of AirPods evolution

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Post by treve »

elzbardico wrote: post #100

This is still the strongest apple advantage: design, engineering and build quality. Recently I wanted to buy a second notebook so I could leave my MBPro at home in trips where I didn't want to work, but still had a machine that run linux and windows for some quick idea or even some light gaming. Decided for a Samsung Galaxy Book Pro. Expensive machine, but slightly cheaper than a MacBook Air. good i7 11gen processor,…

Yet I know lots of people with defects in Apple products. I replaced multiple laptops. Is there real evidence of fewer defects?

Re: CT scans of AirPods evolution

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Post by GhettoComputers »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #105
reaperducer wrote: post #28

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do human ear canals vary that much to need a mic? Based on the number of online complaints that AirPods slip out of people's ears, and the equal number of people saying they're rock solid, even while working out, I think the answer is "yes."

Strange that when making 110 million units per year they don’t bother to cover tens of millions ears more with slightly different design. Same with incredibly small mouse and bunch of other sku’s that could def be differentiated.

Why make more SKUs to support? They don’t want the business or the headaches. They squishy things mold to people’s ears anyway. Imagine asking others to put on several types of headphones or needing a scanner and it getting it wrong. It’s a stupid business decision for mass produced Bluetooth headphones.

Re: CT scans of AirPods evolution

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Post by colejohnson66 »

GhettoComputers wrote: post #114
reaperducer wrote: post #26

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If you drill down far enough in the settings, most Apple products are happy to show you the telemetry that's sent back to Cupertino. I've seen the HomePod data while poking around in the Home app.

They don’t tell you their own telemetry as far as I know.

No. They do. I can see crash logs for assetsd, awdd, com.apple.mobilemail, DifferentialPrivacy, and much more. Just open up Settings and search “analytics”

Re: CT scans of AirPods evolution

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Post by dereg »

GhettoComputers wrote: post #116
dereg wrote: post #112

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Apple replaced the bent iPhones on the spot for free. That said, the iPhone 6 represented peak Jony Ive. I'm glad he's gone. Apple has walked back their obsession with thinness in favor of maximizing utility, all to the benefit of the user.

No, they eventually admitted it was their fault, they didn’t admit fault when the iPad came bent recently, or the MacBook Pro had failures. But with Steve Jobs alive it wasn’t hard to get your handhelds like the iPhone or iPod replaced, now they blame you or make you wait forever. I agree about Jony, the iPhone 5 was peak Apple design, and it comes back with no headphone jack in the 12.

The generosity of Apple's support during Steve's era was unparalleled. It created a great deal of goodwill for the company within the iPhone/Mac community. Like you said, supports now is delayed, difficult, rigid, and merciless.

Somewhere along the line, Apple forgot that its retail stores and support were products in and of themselves.

Re: CT scans of AirPods evolution

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Post by sQL_inject »

Some small but important details about the product architecture that's changed over time somewhat:

- The antenna is sticking out of the ear, while the densest components are deeper in the ear, making them more stable. Now the battery is in the ear and PCB is out of the ear.

- They've added large external mesh over the world-facing mic to reduce windnoise during phone calls. This creates a sort of turbulence that prevents acoustic howling. The air is channeled into a secondary chamber before reaching the mic.

- The airpods had two Infrared Detectors to prevent being spoofed when resting on the table.

- the cases moved from a resistive magnetic hinge to an over-center spring hinge, that's why the newer cases feel less satisfying and fidgety.

Re: CT scans of AirPods evolution

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Post by saila »

gonehome wrote: post #104
hvgk wrote: post #54

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I’ve tried all of them so far. The standard gen 2 AirPods are the best by far. The new 3rd gen ones won’t stay in my ears. Pros are uncomfortable and lack bass. 2nd gen are perfect. I listen to everything from classical to metal to hard dance.

They’re pretty variable depending on your ear shape. For me the pros are the only option since the others fall out immediately (same for mkbhd).

My wired Apple headphones were useless until I found "ear hooks." They work with AirPods too.

Re: CT scans of AirPods evolution

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Post by GhettoComputers »

dereg wrote: post #124
GhettoComputers wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, they eventually admitted it was their fault, they didn’t admit fault when the iPad came bent recently, or the MacBook Pro had failures. But with Steve Jobs alive it wasn’t hard to get your handhelds like the iPhone or iPod replaced, now they blame you or make you wait forever. I agree about Jony, the iPhone 5 was peak Apple design, and it comes back with no headphone jack in the 12.

The generosity of Apple's support during Steve's era was unparalleled. It created a great deal of goodwill for the company within the iPhone/Mac community. Like you said, supports now is delayed, difficult, rigid, and merciless. Somewhere along the line, Apple forgot that its retail stores and support were products in and of themselves.

Yeah it was so easy to walk in with a problem knowing Apple was gonna take care of it (except the MacBook problem but I didn’t use a MacBook). You knew you didn’t need an appointment, 20 mins in to get a nice person who looked at it, saw your problem and said ok well take care of it, here’s another one.

Incredible service at that time, something that Samsung and others didn’t have. Now I get some asshole that says it’s not an issue or it’ll take 2hr to fix the screen, then they break it anyway and give me another phone that isn’t unlocked and I have to go again or call the carrier because Apple fucked up.

Re: CT scans of AirPods evolution

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Post by genewitch »

tinus_hn wrote: post #61
newaccount74 wrote: post #38

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I'm not sure I would have bought AirPods if I knew ahead of time that the battery would die in less than two years and replacing them costs as much as getting new Airpods.

You weren’t aware the batteries were not replaceable?

That is not what they said. It's one thing to have non-replaceable batteries, it's another to have batteries that only last two years or less - generally the size (in milliamp hours) of the battery is what determines its life, so the battery is sized to coincide with the release of new models.

If you're fine with that sort of planned obsolescence, cool.

Re: CT scans of AirPods evolution

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Post by genewitch »

gnicholas wrote: post #59
filoleg wrote: post #36

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I don't know about that. I still have my original AirPods, and they had no noticeable battery loss, and it's been over 3 years by now. They might have lost some battery if I tried to measure it empirically, but I have no way of knowing without measuring it explicitly, as I cannot really catch a battery loss of less than 5-10% with normal use over the course of 3+ years. But I use them all the time interchangeably wit…

Interesting! After 2 years, I'm down to 1 hour of battery life in my second generation AirPods. Fortunately I use one at a time, so I just swap back and forth between them when one dies. My bigger issue is that my AirPods no longer give a warning when they're getting low on battery. The first time the sound chimes marks 3 seconds until it's about to die. I'm left scrambling to get my other one out as my phone reverts…

My android garbage phone pauses media if Bluetooth goes away. The only thing that won't is a literal LTE/4g call, that goes to handset.

Re: CT scans of AirPods evolution

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Post by solarkraft »

GhettoComputers wrote: post #119
rootusrootus wrote: post #10

I'm curious how the newest airpods compare to the pros when it comes to bass. I had first gen airpods, then I bought a set of pros, but the bass was so weak I thought they had to be broken. Turns out it's just an artifact of how they were designed. Some people are okay, but a lot of people feel the same way I do. I ended up returning them and now I'd like to know if the g3 airpods are comparable to the pros, or compa…

They can kneecap them with forced firmware updates. I’m happy with the galaxy buds on iOS. https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/17/21069953/apple-airpods-pr...

Fellow Galaxy Buds (plus) user here, also with Apple devices. I generally like them. Battery life is stellar (compared to the others, it's just about satisfying for me). Pass-through mode is noisy and tinny (irritating). Connection reliability leaves a bunch to be desired (randomly disconnects every once in a while).
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