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Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

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Post by officeplant »

Metricon wrote: post #36
BitwiseFool wrote: post #6

I really hope this backfires spectacularly on YouTube and the zealots who pushed for this change are held professionally accountable. I already click on fewer videos in search results and recommendations because I can no longer gauge how worthwhile they are to try and watch. The end result? I'm sticking to my current channels. I can't be alone and knowing that YouTube takes recommended content so seriously, I have to…

I've heard of a number of Youtube creators that are also placing their content on Odysee as a potential backup. I first heard of this site from Dave at EEVblog: https://www.youtube.com/c/EevblogDave/videos https://odysee.com/@eevblog:7

Doesn't give me a lot of hope with Dave being in the top list on odysee surrounded by alt-right creators who escaped there from other platforms. Plus his recent shilling of the crypto currency connected to odysee on twitter.

I get that creators want to be paid and need a better home than youtube, but none of this bodes well to me yet.

Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

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Post by jasode »

Drew_ wrote: post #110
commandlinefan wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't really watch YouTube much (I don't get sitting through somebody talking about something rather than just reading it myself) but I've seen a lot of people who do use YouTube to find educational videos using the like/dislike ratio as an indicator of the quality of a video. I guess if you're about to invest a half hour in listening to somebody talk about math or computer programming, you want some indication tha…

You can get better feedback on whether a video is bad by skimming comments. You should also acknowledge that you may like content that is unpopular (highly disliked videos are never universally disliked).

>You can get better feedback on whether a video is bad by skimming comments.

But many videos disabled comments while the dislikes count was still visible to help decide.

>You should also acknowledge that you may like content that is unpopular (highly disliked videos

For non-politics or non-music videos such as how-to tutorials or product reviews, I've never experienced this. The crowdsourced dislikes was a very accurate indicator of a bad video and I've never disagreed with it.

Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

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Post by dylan604 »

Drew_ wrote: post #101
tenpoundhammer wrote: post #46

There is a youtube alternative that some creators are using called odysee. https://odysee.com/ . It still has the dislike button.

This site also has 100% CPU usage on idle for some reason.

gotta earn money some how. if you can't make it with ads, put your viewers to work in other ways. just a guess

Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

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Post by Apocryphon »

1_player wrote: post #77
Hamcha wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not related to the dislike feature in particular, but Youtube is definitely losing the next generation of creators. Plenty of people are using TikTok as their main platform nowadays, as it has bigger reach for their markets.

TikTok is targeting a different type of content, there is no competition with YouTube as we know it, which is videos longer than 10 minutes.

I'd say there is more competition, but on much more specialized platforms with different purposes and smaller user bases- MOOC sites, other types of online learning sites, remote workout class platforms, Patreon, etc. There is a good amount of that video content which could be hosted on YouTube, but would be less easily accessible or monetizeable if it was.

Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

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Post by redwall_hp »

Hamcha wrote: post #72
1_player wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Youtube doesn't f*** care. Where are you going to go watch your favorite content creators? Oh, they only upload on our platform? Thought so. They can do whatever they want and they won't lose a single user. In fact, I wanted to cancel my Youtube Premium, but I know it's not gonna affect their decision in the slightest, while I will hurt my favourite content creators as they won't get that thousandth of a cent they ge…

Not related to the dislike feature in particular, but Youtube is definitely losing the next generation of creators. Plenty of people are using TikTok as their main platform nowadays, as it has bigger reach for their markets.

Some are already hedging their bets. Linus Tech Tips, which is a pretty big channel to say the least, launched their own Floatplane service which they use to give exclusive access to paying subscribers. Like early viewing, live streaming and videos that don't even end up on YouTube. They offer it to other channels as well. As far as I'm aware, it has no discovery so far (you need to know a channel URL).

I wish Peertube or something would take off. The kind of centralization YouTube has isn't healthy, and it's easier and cheaper to host video now than ever since HTML5 video became a thing. If you're running a business, depending on the goodwill of a third party company's free offering (which costs them a fortune to run) is nonsensical.

Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

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Post by Apocryphon »

travisd wrote: post #90
1_player wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TikTok is targeting a different type of content, there is no competition with YouTube as we know it, which is videos longer than 10 minutes.

YouTube now has “shorts” but it’s definitely not the same since they aren’t able to emulate the TikTok culture.

Same thing as Facebook/Instagram Reels, another attempt to blatantly clone a rival platform.

Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

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Post by dylan604 »

rvnx wrote: post #97
Nihilartikel wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a chance that the individual was acting bot like.. perhaps they posted the same comment, verbatim, to multiple videos in a short time span.

That's what he says, he goes to some small channels, and keep saying "Great content!" or "Great video!"

Then it doesn't really sound like the world is missing much by not having that comment. Make a comment on HN like "Great thread!" and it'll drop like a stone. It's a useless comment. "Great thread/video! I really like ______" would at least tell someone why you think it is great and much more useful.

Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

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Post by sqrt17 »

1_player wrote: post #18
BitwiseFool wrote: post #6

I really hope this backfires spectacularly on YouTube and the zealots who pushed for this change are held professionally accountable. I already click on fewer videos in search results and recommendations because I can no longer gauge how worthwhile they are to try and watch. The end result? I'm sticking to my current channels. I can't be alone and knowing that YouTube takes recommended content so seriously, I have to…

Youtube doesn't f*** care. Where are you going to go watch your favorite content creators? Oh, they only upload on our platform? Thought so. They can do whatever they want and they won't lose a single user. In fact, I wanted to cancel my Youtube Premium, but I know it's not gonna affect their decision in the slightest, while I will hurt my favourite content creators as they won't get that thousandth of a cent they ge…

Some of the more well-known YouTube creators are also on

- Curiosity Stream/Nebula (Adam Neely, Mary Spender, Ali Abdaal, Thomas Frank, Super Bunnyhop)

- LBRY/odysee (DistroTube)

- FloatPlane (Linus Tech Tips)

None of these has a nice recommender like YouTube, so you'll likely either have manual curation (Nebula, Floatplane) or drown in a sea of bad/uninteresting content (LBRY)

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