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Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

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Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

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Installed this and it's great. That said, it's embarrassing how many iOS extensions I have installed just to work around today's shitty websites. AdGuard to make the web usable, AMPlosion to avoid AMP nonsense, Open in Apollo to avoid mobile Reddit dark pattens, now this (which I installed because YouTube's new embed widget starts playing on touch-start instead of touch-release, so it triggers while scrolling...)

> it's embarrassing how many iOS extensions I have installed just to work around today's shitty websites The user-hostile design of web sites in 2021 is appalling. Even simple text articles or blog posts have become horrible. I was just reading a blog post linked from HN which featured 3 different popups: two modals and a modeless sidebar popup that follows you as you scroll. No, I don't want to subscribe to your ema…

https://www.no-thanks-extension.com

Can't recommend it enough. There's no extension for Safari on iOS yet but it's so worth it.

Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

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System Settings / Safari / Extensions / Vinegar Set “all websites” to “deny” Visit YouTube.com. Run the extension from the puzzle icon in the address bar, give it permission for “allow on this website”

Cool. Thanks! I guess this feature is not available on macOS pre-Monterey (i.e. Big Sur)? I could not find it neither in macOS / System Preferences nor Safari / Preferences / Extensions.

It would appear that this granularity is not part of Monterey's implementation of extensions at all. Might be a good addition to the Vinegar app.

Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

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I remember buying cassettes and then CDs, either from a known distributor or litte hole-in-the-wall shops. When digital music was getting big, it was mostly experienced through DJs at parties. They got their records from distributors and there were ways of pressing small amounts of vinyl cheaply. Artists who didn't have a record deal had to hustle, selling their tunes directly from the trunk of their car or any means…

Electronic music wouldn't exist if it wasn't for ignoring copyright laws. The entire scene is built off the back of sampling and mix tapes. Likewise MP3 players and similar portable music devices (like the iPod) were technically advocating breaking copyright laws in some countries. Like here in the UK where it was illegal to rip a CD you owned. That law was clearly idiotic but the only reason it changed was because e…

Small nitpick- I'd say one of the hallmarks of electronic music was that it wasn't built from copyrightable samples. It was trackers and analog-then-digital synths and all sorts of microtonal weirdness which had never been heard before.

It's a nitpick because I agree large swaths of the dance and hip-hop music we have today wouldn't exist if not for copyright violation, no denying that.

However, if we can put aside the legal angle, there's an understood difference between copyright violation for the purpose of sampling and remixing vs. outright "gonna steal your stuff because I don't want to pay for it."

Tiny anecdote fwiw, I once worked a summer gig for a wedding/bar-mitzvah DJ who had a legal license to rip and play mp3s. Iirc part of the deal was they had to be a certain quality, e.g. 320kbps straight from the source.

Or at least that's what he told me (this was AJ the DJ in Houston, Tx circa 2000 if anyone wants to do the fact-check legwork)

Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

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Yeah, that’s unfortunate that we have to trust developers to that extent. OTOH, it is true that they could get a lot of information once we give them the right to inject some JavaScript in every webpage we load. Personally, I have enabled it only on YouTube so they should not be able to touch the rest.

How do you enable an extension (this one) ONLY on youtube?

When you activate it the first time, it asks whether it should be active for all websites or only the current one. You can also change that later in the settings. At least on iOS; I’ll need to check but I think it’s the same on recent macOSes.

Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

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I can easily afford that but I never want to pay a single penny to Google/Alphabet Inc. More of an ideological thing than economical, probably many have different reasons here instead of not being able to afford it. Also, "then don't use" is not an option either as almost all the content out there is uploaded to YouTube, so it isn't like same content is available on Vimeo/Facebook etc.

Without trying to sound too puritanical, your stance sounds like a way to avoid paying creators

Nope, seriously. If there were a way to directly pay the good content creators (not talking about $5, Patreon etc, but having a microtransaction everytime I watch a nice video like 0.05 each which does sum up to something similar aggregated) I'd love to.

Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

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Electronic music wouldn't exist if it wasn't for ignoring copyright laws. The entire scene is built off the back of sampling and mix tapes. Likewise MP3 players and similar portable music devices (like the iPod) were technically advocating breaking copyright laws in some countries. Like here in the UK where it was illegal to rip a CD you owned. That law was clearly idiotic but the only reason it changed was because e…

Small nitpick- I'd say one of the hallmarks of electronic music was that it wasn't built from copyrightable samples. It was trackers and analog-then-digital synths and all sorts of microtonal weirdness which had never been heard before. It's a nitpick because I agree large swaths of the dance and hip-hop music we have today wouldn't exist if not for copyright violation, no denying that. However, if we can put aside t…

> I'd say one of the hallmarks of electronic music was that it wasn't built from copyrightable samples

Yup, exactly. See, for instance, the 1937 ondes Martenot composition Oraison as an example.[0] Other electronic progenitor genres, e.g musique concrete, did use samples but they were widely not copyrighted sounds.[1][2]

Hip-hop, however, would not exist without illegal sampling.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EU0ISo996A

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9pOq8u6-bA

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8_fhIKeOX0

Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

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post #12

Installed this and it's great. That said, it's embarrassing how many iOS extensions I have installed just to work around today's shitty websites. AdGuard to make the web usable, AMPlosion to avoid AMP nonsense, Open in Apollo to avoid mobile Reddit dark pattens, now this (which I installed because YouTube's new embed widget starts playing on touch-start instead of touch-release, so it triggers while scrolling...)

Exactly. My biggest deterrent to trying Vinegar is time spent farting around with all the extensions, not price. eg Figuring out if Vinegar plays nicely with 1Blocker.

At some point, browsers will switch strategies from mitigations to scraping.

I'd LOVE for an RSS Reader (like NetNewsWire) to prefetch the "reader view" of linked web pages. Instead of malware blockers curating zillions of filters and patches, just create scripts to scrape the top 100 websites. And then allow sharing of user supplied scrapers.

Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

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This is worth it even just for removing the so annoying play on scroll behaviour! I have YouTube Premium and still feel the need for it. Also, $2 feels just right for these medium effort apps. Unfortunately people still complain about it not being free. When I asked $2 for a macOS app [0] where I worked for a bit more than a month, people got offended by it. Coding the app logic is just a small part of launching an a…

It’s not necessary to please everyone, some people will just never be customers

Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

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Loving it, would love it even more if it worked for other video embeds too...there are exactly no scenarios where "your awesome embedded video player" is better than "standard HTML5 video player".

StoptheMadness does. Since I already have it installed dunno will i get anything new with this extension.

Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

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Loving it, would love it even more if it worked for other video embeds too...there are exactly no scenarios where "your awesome embedded video player" is better than "standard HTML5 video player".

StoptheMadness does. Since I already have it installed dunno will i get anything new with this extension.

That’s great, didn’t know it had that option, thanks!
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