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Austria makes Covid19 vaccination mandatory as of Feb 2022

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Post by malermeister »

roenxi wrote: post #118
malermeister wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But is that a bad thing necessarily? If we have powers that we can use in emergency situations and there's precedent they will only get used in such, isn't that the ideal state?

Looking at the US, because they keep good records on emergencies, it has been unlikely for an emergency situation to end from around 1994. There appears to still be an ongoing emergency that started in 1979. This is a relative strong precedent in the west of emergency powers being used in an ongoing way. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_emergencies_i...

I'm not sure the US counts as precedent for Austria or that Austria even counts as "The West" seeing how it's a constitutionally neutral country

Re: Austria makes Covid19 vaccination mandatory as of Feb 2022

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Post by adevx »

credit_guy wrote: post #102
moroz2137 wrote: post #16

A point a lot of people seem to miss is that there is a huge difference between making a vaccination mandatory, taking full responsibility for any side effects, and forcing people to get vaccinated by depriving them of their basic rights if they don't, but not taking any responsibility for side effects.

> but not taking any responsibility for side effects. Maybe you missed that, but the US Government does take responsibility for side effects. VAERS = Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System [1] VICP = National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program [2] -> this is for injuries you suffer from any vaccine CICP = Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program -> this is for things such as the Covid vaccine [1] https://vaers.hh…

Covid vaccines are not covered under the VICP program: https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/covered-vaccines/i... They are covered under https://www.hrsa.gov/cicp Which has notable differences (worse) in injuries covered, appeal possibilities and benefits. Differences: https://www.hrsa.gov/cicp/cicp-vicp

Re: Austria makes Covid19 vaccination mandatory as of Feb 2022

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Post by credit_guy »

adevx wrote: post #122
credit_guy wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but not taking any responsibility for side effects. Maybe you missed that, but the US Government does take responsibility for side effects. VAERS = Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System [1] VICP = National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program [2] -> this is for injuries you suffer from any vaccine CICP = Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program -> this is for things such as the Covid vaccine [1] https://vaers.hh…

Covid vaccines are not covered under the VICP program: https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/covered-vaccines/i ... They are covered under https://www.hrsa.gov/cicp Which has notable differences (worse) in injuries covered, appeal possibilities and benefits. Differences: https://www.hrsa.gov/cicp/cicp-vicp

That's exactly what I was saying.

Re: Austria makes Covid19 vaccination mandatory as of Feb 2022

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Post by blub »

gehatare wrote: post #30
blub wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought that this is a very unusual step that Austria's taking, so I did some reading... Germany, Austria and Switzerland don't have any mandatory vaccines for the general population. Only in Germany is vaccination against measles mandatory for children and caregivers (daycare, etc). Austria in particular had no mandatory vaccination at all until they announced it now. France and Italy seem to have many mandatory v…

Desperate times and all that. With a incident rate of >1000 (and a lot higher in some hotspots), hospitals are at their breaking point right now.

Mandatory vaccines in February won’t do anything until April probably and by then the current wave will be over.

Assuming the new South African variant won’t make things worse yet again.

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Post by elmotri »

Maf1 wrote: post #72
spants wrote: post #64

Gibraltar has 100% Covid Vaccination with 5th Highest Covid Mortality Rate in the World

Gibraltar surge in covid cases and is cancelling lots of events, but has 100% vaccination rate. No stopping restrictions and cases even with 100% vaccination rate.

Where do you get the information from that they are cancelling lots of events? As far as I can tell they are only giving out guidelines how you should behave if you want to have a party but no rules that prevent any event[0]. Also they only cancelled official events meaning events organized by the government: "Given the exponential rise in the number of cases, the Government, for example, intends to cancel a number of its own functions including official Christmas parties, official receptions and similar gatherings." from [1]

[0] https://www.gibraltar.gov.gi/press-releases/public-health-gu...

[1] https://www.gibraltar.gov.gi/press-releases/rise-in-active-c...

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