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Re: American spy hacked Booking.com, company stayed silent

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This isn’t surprising to me. I know lots of people who work for this company in the Netherlands, and I’ve heard a lot of inside stories about the questionable business practices that go on there. Starting at the very top, with the fraudulent marketing lies to sell you rooms because there’s only X number of rooms left, which is entirely bogus, and for which the courts have punished them, if I recall. They’re not inter…

> They’re not interested in anything but profit above all else Not disagreeing with you, but why is it a surprise to anyone? Any company that seems to be “nice” is only doing that as a good PR increases their profits, which depending on domain may be very important.

It’s not necessarily about PR. Being nice is good business. The problem is being nice is good in the long term while being a greedy bastard generally pays more immediate dividends.

Re: American spy hacked Booking.com, company stayed silent

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post #27

This isn’t surprising to me. I know lots of people who work for this company in the Netherlands, and I’ve heard a lot of inside stories about the questionable business practices that go on there. Starting at the very top, with the fraudulent marketing lies to sell you rooms because there’s only X number of rooms left, which is entirely bogus, and for which the courts have punished them, if I recall. They’re not inter…

but that is what all property management companies do as well it seems, in california, tell you there are only 2 units to choose from while 30% of the building is empty?

Re: American spy hacked Booking.com, company stayed silent

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Booking.com is the poster child of 'dark UX patterns' like that.

I cannot recall anything concrete but from HN and other tech news platforms I heard only bad things about the platform.

It's a common discussion topic -- a few links:

Bad UX: How Booking.com deceives clients

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15152155

https://medium.com/@ilyadoroshin/bad-ux-how-booking-com-dece...

How Booking.com manipulates users (ro-che.info)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15297915

https://ro-che.info/articles/2017-09-17-booking-com-manipula...

[dupe] Dark Patterns (darkpatterns.org)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20858714

https://www.darkpatterns.org/

Successful machine learning models: lessons learned at Booking.com

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21182445

https://blog.acolyer.org/2019/10/07/150-successful-machine-l...

Dark Patterns at Scale: Findings from a Crawl of 11K Shopping Websites (2019)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25968531

https://webtransparency.cs.princeton.edu/dark-patterns/

Re: American spy hacked Booking.com, company stayed silent

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> The specific intelligence organization—of which the United States has 18—is unknown. I certainly couldn't have named them all, so I dug up a list: • Air Force Intelligence • Army Intelligence • Central Intelligence Agency • Coast Guard Intelligence • Defense Intelligence Agency • Department of Energy • Department of Homeland Security • Department of State • Department of the Treasury • Drug Enforcement Administrati…

All that intelligence and they still can't figure out how to stop a bunch of unemployed basementarians from organising on Facebook to storm one of their principal seats of government... (Sorry for the Twitter-grade comment - but I do sometimes wonder what these people really spend their time doing, that they couldn't catch that one.)

Oh they knew it was going to happen, it's just that they don't have the people to actually intervene, and the ones that did were either in on it, indecisive, or ordered to not intervene from higher up.

Re: American spy hacked Booking.com, company stayed silent

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post #27

This isn’t surprising to me. I know lots of people who work for this company in the Netherlands, and I’ve heard a lot of inside stories about the questionable business practices that go on there. Starting at the very top, with the fraudulent marketing lies to sell you rooms because there’s only X number of rooms left, which is entirely bogus, and for which the courts have punished them, if I recall. They’re not inter…

Booking.com is the poster child of 'dark UX patterns' like that.

what about facebook?

Re: American spy hacked Booking.com, company stayed silent

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post #87

> The specific intelligence organization—of which the United States has 18—is unknown. I certainly couldn't have named them all, so I dug up a list: • Air Force Intelligence • Army Intelligence • Central Intelligence Agency • Coast Guard Intelligence • Defense Intelligence Agency • Department of Energy • Department of Homeland Security • Department of State • Department of the Treasury • Drug Enforcement Administrati…

What does Space Force Intelligence do?

Hacks into travel websites that Martians use

Re: American spy hacked Booking.com, company stayed silent

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Are Perl programmers generally more morally flexible than others?

No, I mean that BooKing.com is morally flexible enough to hire anyone who claims they are willing to program in Perl, because it's so damned hard to find good Perl programmers who don't know any other languages they enjoy programming in more, and can't find better jobs than programming in Perl. If BooKing.com were trying to hire JavaScript programmers, they'd have a vastly more enormous pool of young and old, well ed…

javascript implies well educated? so much LOL here. maybe perl programmers are happy with perl and have no interest in learning yet another programming language.

Re: American spy hacked Booking.com, company stayed silent

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at the same time the UI is awesome. using booking.com on a regular basis and I'm quite happy with it.

When searching for an accomodation, booking.com offers a map, which shows the price of each accomodation, with filters applied. This is so useful and I wish other travel sites also had this. A list of a 200 hotels of $50-100 is simply not enough information when searching in an unknown city. I need to narrow down that list, for example with features like a kitchenette (60 hotels left), but also a location near the ci…

Doesn't hotels.com also have the same filters? I just tried it now, and I could filter by facilities (kitchen) and distance to landmarks

Re: American spy hacked Booking.com, company stayed silent

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post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are Perl programmers generally more morally flexible than others?

No, I mean that BooKing.com is morally flexible enough to hire anyone who claims they are willing to program in Perl, because it's so damned hard to find good Perl programmers who don't know any other languages they enjoy programming in more, and can't find better jobs than programming in Perl. If BooKing.com were trying to hire JavaScript programmers, they'd have a vastly more enormous pool of young and old, well ed…

I don’t see how being flexible on hiring to meet the market is being morally flexible. There’s nothing immoral about it that I can see.

Re: American spy hacked Booking.com, company stayed silent

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post #27

This isn’t surprising to me. I know lots of people who work for this company in the Netherlands, and I’ve heard a lot of inside stories about the questionable business practices that go on there. Starting at the very top, with the fraudulent marketing lies to sell you rooms because there’s only X number of rooms left, which is entirely bogus, and for which the courts have punished them, if I recall. They’re not inter…

For some reason, the hotel business seems pretty shady. My sense from crawling the web is that it's one of the areas that have the most blackhat SEO as well. Straight up linkfarms. This is sheer speculation, but I do think the hotel business is really convenient to get into if you have a questionable side-business and need to launder money. Who is to say if a room was occupied or not that night, if that foreigner who…

Argentina president Cristina Kirchner is accused of having a hotel chain in Patagonia for money laundery purposes. Investigators say the hotel never received anyone despite the books saying is was full for years.
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