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Re: Hetzner cloud servers are now available in Ashburn USA

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Did you write a blog post or have any screenshots of emails to them? Anecdotes like these are enough to tarnish a brand forever in the minds of potential customers.

Here is basically the core of the communications. https://imgur.com/a/y1dMhd2

Edit: this is fixed now—see the comments below.

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You blurred out your own name but left the other person's name in cleartext. That's not playing fair.

I've killed this comment. If you want to make another image that blurs out both names, let me know at hn@ycombinator.com and I'll be happy to unkill the comment.

You can make your substantive point about your interaction with the company without spotlighting an individual like that.

Re: Hetzner cloud servers are now available in Ashburn USA

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It appears AMD Dedicated is coming (see my EDIT comment above). If they're able to offer dedicated at the similar price points to other regions, it would be truly amazing.

Right now we are only focusing on cloud servers. If things go well with the new ASH location, we will consider adding other products and services, such as dedicated root servers. But we will discuss this internally first before we make any announcements. --Katie, Marketing, Hetzner Online

I have to say, we were awestruck at the pricing and the Europe/US footprint is exactly what we need, so we are going all in to Hetzner. (The video tour of the datacenter was really good too)

Re: Hetzner cloud servers are now available in Ashburn USA

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post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here is basically the core of the communications. https://imgur.com/a/y1dMhd2

Edit: this is fixed now—see the comments below. --- You blurred out your own name but left the other person's name in cleartext. That's not playing fair. I've killed this comment. If you want to make another image that blurs out both names, let me know at hn@ycombinator.com and I'll be happy to unkill the comment. You can make your substantive point about your interaction with the company without spotlighting an indi…

You are absolutely correct.

Just a note that I appreciate all of the hard work you do here to keep the conversation here civil, and will strive better to follow the example you set for all of us.

The redactions have been redone and forwarded.

Re: Hetzner cloud servers are now available in Ashburn USA

#125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here is basically the core of the communications. https://imgur.com/a/y1dMhd2

Hi again, I see. Before I respond, could I ask you to please re-post that image without my colleague's name in it? And could you also edit your above comment so that my colleague's name is no longer in it. Unfortunately, some of our coworkers have been harassed in the past after their names were published online. So we try to prevent this from happening. Thanks in advance for doing that. I really appreciate it. Okay…

Hi. I have resent the image with better redactions and offer my apologies.

As I mentioned in other comments, my issue is not whose mistake this was, as I'm sure we can both agree that technically I am to blame for my mistake.

My issue is that there was no attempt to amicably resolve this.

The end result was that I lost 15 days worth of labor where I was spending 10-16 hours per day trying to launch a product.

I was unable to recover from the loss of momentum that was incurred by this. (I mean, who really can maintain that type of work effort for an extended period?)

The end result was that the project eventually failed and I lost an amount of revenue that was significant to me.

Again, I am not trying to express that I am not to blame for not closer checking forms that my browser autofills for legal accuracy .. moreso I am suggesting that this could have been resolved by just sending an e-mail to double check things with me before deleting all of my data.

I also reject your idea of deleting accounts that "seem fake". If you have a valid e-mail address, and a valid credit card, which all share more or less the same name, are you really going to reach for the delete button?

This is exactly my issue, and is what cost me so much grief.

If someone gets married and changes their name, are you going to delete their data too?

This is a rhetorical question. At any rate, I can only hope your company adopts a less hostile stance towards your customers, but I do appreciate you taking the time to respond.

Re: Hetzner cloud servers are now available in Ashburn USA

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post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Edit: this is fixed now—see the comments below. --- You blurred out your own name but left the other person's name in cleartext. That's not playing fair. I've killed this comment. If you want to make another image that blurs out both names, let me know at hn@ycombinator.com and I'll be happy to unkill the comment. You can make your substantive point about your interaction with the company without spotlighting an indi…

You are absolutely correct. Just a note that I appreciate all of the hard work you do here to keep the conversation here civil, and will strive better to follow the example you set for all of us. The redactions have been redone and forwarded.

Ok, I've replaced the link above, and restored your post. Thanks for doing that!

Re: Hetzner cloud servers are now available in Ashburn USA

#127

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Right now we are only focusing on cloud servers. If things go well with the new ASH location, we will consider adding other products and services, such as dedicated root servers. But we will discuss this internally first before we make any announcements. --Katie, Marketing, Hetzner Online

I have to say, we were awestruck at the pricing and the Europe/US footprint is exactly what we need, so we are going all in to Hetzner. (The video tour of the datacenter was really good too)

Oh, that's wonderful! I'm so glad to hear that you're going to go all in with us. And I am really pleased you liked the video from der8auer at our data center. His crew did a great job, and I really love the topics he covered and how much detail he went into there. :) If you're new to us, make sure to check out these: some general cloud information: https://docs.hetzner.com/cloud stuff on GitHub: https://github.com/hetznercloud tutorials: https://community.hetzner.com/tutorials And have fun! --Katie

Re: Hetzner cloud servers are now available in Ashburn USA

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right now we are only focusing on cloud servers. If things go well with the new ASH location, we will consider adding other products and services, such as dedicated root servers. But we will discuss this internally first before we make any announcements. --Katie, Marketing, Hetzner Online

Thanks Katie for the detail. FYI - your AX101 dedicated offering in my mind is the best offering in the market. I'd love to see this come to the US. https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ax101/configura...

Yeah, some of the developers on our product development team were particularly happy with that model. I'll make sure to pass that on. :) --Katie

Re: Hetzner cloud servers are now available in Ashburn USA

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right now we are only focusing on cloud servers. If things go well with the new ASH location, we will consider adding other products and services, such as dedicated root servers. But we will discuss this internally first before we make any announcements. --Katie, Marketing, Hetzner Online

I'd also like to express my interest in US dedicated servers. I really like the pricing of your EU offering it'd be great to have something a bit closer here besides OVH!

That's great to know. You're clearly not the only one who feels this way. I'll be meeting with a colleague in the business development team son and will pass on all of the customer wishes for dedicated servers in the US. :) --Katie

Re: Hetzner cloud servers are now available in Ashburn USA

#130

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Hi again, I see. Before I respond, could I ask you to please re-post that image without my colleague's name in it? And could you also edit your above comment so that my colleague's name is no longer in it. Unfortunately, some of our coworkers have been harassed in the past after their names were published online. So we try to prevent this from happening. Thanks in advance for doing that. I really appreciate it. Okay…

Hi. I have resent the image with better redactions and offer my apologies. As I mentioned in other comments, my issue is not whose mistake this was, as I'm sure we can both agree that technically I am to blame for my mistake. My issue is that there was no attempt to amicably resolve this. The end result was that I lost 15 days worth of labor where I was spending 10-16 hours per day trying to launch a product. I was u…

First, thanks for editing your other posts. I really and sincerely appreciate it. :) Second, I am very sorry that you lost so much work. I remember long ago losing around two weeks' worth of work on my master's thesis, so I understand the grief that's involved. I got much better at making multiple backups after that. But it really sucked, and when I think about it today, it still makes me a bit sad. I can understand how you still feel burned by that experience with us. I do appreciate you talking to me about what happened. Really.

The marriage-name-change question is a good one, actually. If someone legally changes their name after they are already a customer with us, they can write us a support request and make sure this gets changed in their customer information. If a customer who's just changed their name legally wants to be sure they get an account, they should update their legal ID first. (But I think most people in this situation do quickly update their legal IDs. I know my husband did when he took my name.)

We do have a brand new Head of Customer Service, and I will be sharing feedback from customers about their negative experiences. And I am sure that he will talk that into consideration when he assesses our processes and how we can improve them. --Katie

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