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Post by ThrowawayR2 »

bborud wrote: post #110

reMarkable might do it for me if they had a more powerful CPU onboard and a way to get your code to run on it so the device can be tailored to solve more use-cases. I'm hesitant to say I want an app-store, because it implies a lot of stuff I don't want, but something like an app-store would make it a very different proposition. It would turn a single use device into a platform. It feels a bit silly to point this out…

> "reMarkable might do it for me if they had a more powerful CPU onboard and a way to get your code to run on it so the device can be tailored to solve more use-cases."

The reMarkable is very intentionally an e-ink notebook and very little else. If you want a device that can be tailored to solve more use cases, one of the e-ink Android tablets would probably be a better choice.

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Post by fragmede »

dTal wrote: post #106
AstroDogCatcher wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm in the same boat. I use the rM extensively for meeting notes, but I have never been able to give up on having a paper notebook as well. The problem is mostly the ease of page-flicking; skipping forward and backward on an e-ink device is an O(N) operation, while in a physical book it is O(1). The same problem has basically forced me towards using a Kindle only for fiction where the content is linear - for technica…

I think a physical book is something like O(log n), unless you can crack it precisely to the page you want every time.

norminal case, or worst case? it's nominally O(1+c) - find the right section, turn forwards or back a couple pages (c). Problem is, worst case for an analog journal is something like O(NaN) because you can't find it and then give up, frustrated.

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Post by sterlinm »

Ignoring all of the debates about business strategy etc, if you assume you'd be able to use the device for about 5-years before replacing it, this is effectively raising the price from $399 to $779 without adding any additional appealing features.

I've considered splurging on one of these and resisted at $400. Nearly $800 seems like a huge stretch.

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Post by idorosen »

bborud wrote: post #118
idorosen wrote: post #113

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They give you SSH root access to the device. There are many many apps people have developed for it, look for the reHackable GitHub repos. (The SSH root password is in the help/about section where the open source licenses are listed.)

If you are going to run third party code on the device there needs to be a bit more than a hackish way to upload software to the device. My dad isn't going to SSH into a tablet. "Feature phones" illustrated this. I wrote a few (very simple) apps for Symbian phones, and for Java Mobile Edition way back when. But there were good reasons why this never caught on and why I never bothered doing any serious development on…

I was responding to this in GP:

> reMarkable might do it for me if they had a more powerful CPU onboard and a way to get your code to run on it so the device can be tailored to solve more use-cases.

And there are a few app loaders/package managers that let you download new packages for it, but I agree that reMarkable isn't yet a product for your dad. Another serious product design flaw is that it does not support full disk encryption, or any encryption of documents for that matter. That means that anything uploaded to reMarkable cloud is accessible to reMarkable staff. That makes it basically unusable for work for me. It's a shame because the Screen Share (f.k.a. Live View) feature makes it a really great whiteboarding tool.

> "Feature phones" illustrated this. I wrote a few (very simple) apps for Symbian phones, and for Java Mobile Edition way back when. But there were good reasons why this never caught on and why I never bothered doing any serious development on them.

Back in the day, WhatsApp did spend the time to build a messenger app in J2ME (this was long before the Facebook acquisition), which made it possible for them to serve a very large worldwide population where smartphones hadn't penetrated. There weren't too many cheap, accessible smartphone options that had app stores or package managers available for under $500USD back then, but you could get a Motorola phone for cheap or even free from your carrier in most countries, and those supported J2ME apps. Their J2ME apps were a key (if not THE key) customer acquisition channel that got them a large underserved userbase from countries that Facebook hadn't penetrated deeply at that point. In my opinion, this non-overlapping set of users that were using WhatsApp daily was one of the reasons they were able to command a premium during acquisition. It was a hell of an increase to DAU/MAU.

In that era, per-message SMS fees, per-minute phone plans, long distance charges, and other extortionate fees were commonplace. Many WhatsApp users used it to avoid SMS/MMS charges, for which the J2ME UI was good enough to deliver tons of value, especially in low income areas.

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Post by brigandish »

fragmede wrote: post #120
marifjeren wrote: post #90

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Why did you write that as EVERY.DEVICE.I.OWN? Does that refer to something besides its literal meaning?

It's for emphasis. You might see this stylized as with the hand clap emoji between words in other contexts. HN isn't advanced though to support emoji, however.

Use asterisks, it's very effective. (I think)

Or should that be, I think?

Re: reMarkable Connect subscription plans

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Post by bborud »

idorosen wrote: post #125
bborud wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are going to run third party code on the device there needs to be a bit more than a hackish way to upload software to the device. My dad isn't going to SSH into a tablet. "Feature phones" illustrated this. I wrote a few (very simple) apps for Symbian phones, and for Java Mobile Edition way back when. But there were good reasons why this never caught on and why I never bothered doing any serious development on…

I was responding to this in GP: > reMarkable might do it for me if they had a more powerful CPU onboard and a way to get your code to run on it so the device can be tailored to solve more use-cases. And there are a few app loaders/package managers that let you download new packages for it, but I agree that reMarkable isn't yet a product for your dad. Another serious product design flaw is that it does not support ful…

How long did that time window last?

I started working for a telco that had a lot of business in emerging (Asian) markets in 2009. Three months after whatsapp was founded. What I do remember from that period was how quickly smart phone prices fell and how rapidly they came to dominate much of the picture in just a few years.

Re: reMarkable Connect subscription plans

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Post by selykg »

selykg wrote: post #44

Going to tell my story, again, as I think it's important. Remarkable seem like the type of company that are pouring money into marketing and not much else. To their detriment. I bought a Remarkable 2 in September. Realized I did not want it, because it was missing a core feature I needed (the ability to search hand written notes, which Goodnotes does, Remarkable does not). Remarkable sends their products via DHL. Who…

Small update here. After nearly 45 days, and one dispute later, I have my refund.

I get the feeling this company is going out of business.

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Post by nottorp »

sofixa wrote: post #109
robbedpeter wrote: post #103

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They should fire the individuals responsible and blast that news to the world, and focus on providing a device that doesn't become yet another wallet sucker. If they don't, they won't even be a footnote in gadget history. e-ink screens are becoming accessible, patents are expiring, and sbcs and socs are becoming trivial to develop with. As-a-service models are rent seeking grift and doomed to failure once a sufficien…

> As-a-service models are rent seeking grift and doomed to failure once a sufficient portion of the population becomes tech literate I don't think the tech literacy in western countries will change much. And it has nothing to do with the as-a-service model, which makes a lot of sense in many scenarios, on both the seller's side (predictable cashflow, finances updating old(er) software instead of churning new services…

> Why wouldn't a cloud sync service be as a service? You're literally paying for an ongoing thing ( storage somewhere).

Reminder: they want you to pay for using someone else's storage that you've already paid for. Namely Dropbox.

If they just offered their own cloud sync service for a subcription, as opposed to hiding all useful features behind it, nobody would have complained.

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Post by idorosen »

bborud wrote: post #127
idorosen wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was responding to this in GP: > reMarkable might do it for me if they had a more powerful CPU onboard and a way to get your code to run on it so the device can be tailored to solve more use-cases. And there are a few app loaders/package managers that let you download new packages for it, but I agree that reMarkable isn't yet a product for your dad. Another serious product design flaw is that it does not support ful…

How long did that time window last? I started working for a telco that had a lot of business in emerging (Asian) markets in 2009. Three months after whatsapp was founded. What I do remember from that period was how quickly smart phone prices fell and how rapidly they came to dominate much of the picture in just a few years.

Long enough for the network effect to take root in many countries. IIRC, it was at least 1-2 years in Israel and other countries, and today WhatsApp is ubiquitous there. J2ME apps showed up on a few smartphones too.
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