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Barcelona’s Bicibús: hundreds of families biking to school together

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Re: Barcelona’s Bicibús: hundreds of families biking to school together

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Post by peoplefromibiza »

Scoundreller wrote: post #94
peoplefromibiza wrote: post #84

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Been in Paris two weeks ago as well to visit my girlfriend who's been living there for 11 years. Scooters are in the process of being banned in Paris because they are too dangerous and in Rome, where I come from, they are going yo be heavily regulated (mandatory helmet, reduced speed, designated pick up and drop locations, etc. ) because they caused a +35% increase of brain traumas to teenagers Not everything that lo…

I wonder if they’ll actually enforce the scooter ban on private ones. Because they certainly don’t enforce traffic laws on motos lane splitting constantly anywhere.

Speculating here because I am not aware of the details, but I guess they will be regulated the same way mopeds are: license plates, helmets and all that stuff.

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Post by bserge »

peoplefromibiza wrote: post #84
_nalply wrote: post #50

I have been in Paris two weeks ago and I am surprised how much Paris changed in the last years. Bike lanes and people who ride bikes and scooters everywhere. I hope that this is THE change in most European metropolises for the future. Not only in Barcelona.

Been in Paris two weeks ago as well to visit my girlfriend who's been living there for 11 years. Scooters are in the process of being banned in Paris because they are too dangerous and in Rome, where I come from, they are going yo be heavily regulated (mandatory helmet, reduced speed, designated pick up and drop locations, etc. ) because they caused a +35% increase of brain traumas to teenagers Not everything that lo…

*teenagers who fall.

Really could've been reduced by a lot with a few simple instructions in the app. Stick to the right, don't speed, be careful, etc.

Who the fuck falls off a scooter, anyway.

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Post by brailsafe »

pachico wrote: post #116
doctorhandshake wrote: post #20

Yet another example of how Barcelona feels societally futuristic in some ways. For a couple more - they were way ahead of the curve (at least from an American perceptive) on superblocks[1] and they have centralized vacuum municipal trash collection[2] [1] https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/may/17/superblocks-r... [2] https://enviropaul.wordpress.com/2016/03/22/all-the-garbage-...

Lots of opinions about Barcelona, I see. Somehow I feel I know the city quite well. I moved here more than 20 years ago and I can compare it to others cities I live in or visited. Barcelona is relatively safe, although, as it's been mentioned, it had several hot spots (I used to live in some of these, actually). Crime is in most of the cases about pickpocketing or, sadly but infrequently, with assault. Still, believe…

How bad is pickpocketing these days? Barcelona seemed to have developed an international reputation for it, but I presume that much like all things, it's overblown.

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Post by peoplefromibiza »

xwdv wrote: post #106
peoplefromibiza wrote: post #84

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Been in Paris two weeks ago as well to visit my girlfriend who's been living there for 11 years. Scooters are in the process of being banned in Paris because they are too dangerous and in Rome, where I come from, they are going yo be heavily regulated (mandatory helmet, reduced speed, designated pick up and drop locations, etc. ) because they caused a +35% increase of brain traumas to teenagers Not everything that lo…

It would be a shame if they are banned as it is one of the most efficient and enjoyable ways to get around the city.

In my opinion they certainly bring the fun factor, but regarding efficency they offer no real advantage over electric mopeds, especially when riding them with a passenger.

They are probably more "portable" though.

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Post by bserge »

Tade0 wrote: post #71
robomartin wrote: post #46

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https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/09/cycling-injuries-three... From the article: "VeiligheidNL estimates that there were actually some 80,000 injuries of which 50,000 were serious." And, of course, the idea of biking and the reality of it are quite different things: https://www.bikelaw.com/2019/05/amsterdam-not-cycling-paradi... I love how people tend to have this impulse to reduce reality to a single variable: Bike…

FTA: > Often a faster biker would pass within millimeters to get by me as I pedaled in an already narrow bike lane. This is the number one thing I hate about mixing sidewalks with bike paths, but it appears it's also an issue on the latter. Anyway this figure representing the fraction of trips done by bike in the Netherlands is interesting in context: https://www2.deloitte.com/xe/en/insights/focus/future-of-mob... Lo…

Greener, cheaper, healthier. All by a lot.

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Post by Steltek »

pvaldes wrote: post #92
sveme wrote: post #45

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That‘s winter in Munich; plenty of people, me included, don‘t mind.

Children are much more fragile than adults to cold and hot. It does not matter if a fit adult can do it, you need to adapt it to the weakest link.

I bike with my kids in -12C. You dress like they're going sledding or skiing. It's fine. If you live in a cold climate, you just have that stuff anyway.

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Post by brailsafe »

bserge wrote: post #122
peoplefromibiza wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Been in Paris two weeks ago as well to visit my girlfriend who's been living there for 11 years. Scooters are in the process of being banned in Paris because they are too dangerous and in Rome, where I come from, they are going yo be heavily regulated (mandatory helmet, reduced speed, designated pick up and drop locations, etc. ) because they caused a +35% increase of brain traumas to teenagers Not everything that lo…

*teenagers who fall. Really could've been reduced by a lot with a few simple instructions in the app. Stick to the right, don't speed, be careful, etc. Who the fuck falls off a scooter, anyway.

Have never ridden one, but I assume you could easily crash into a person, car, curb, signpost, other scooterers, hit a rock etc..

Simple instructions don't solve anything, and represent a design flaw. If the design doesn't inherently address the problem you want to solve, then text definitely won't.

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Post by bserge »

jseban wrote: post #114
agumonkey wrote: post #109

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you mean people using their bikes don't do it regularly ?

Yep, that's what I mean. They like the idea of being a good person, but when push comes to shove, in reality it's only used/usable when the weather is nice, and people don't use it when the weather is bad.

You joking? I have used a tram twice in the past six months. I bike 25km to work and back every day and anywhere I need to go.

And I love it even more without the scorching heat. I've not felt this good physically in a decade, great free aerobic exercise.

And apparently this city isn't even all that bike friendly compared to others, which is amazing since it seems perfect to me.

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Post by jeromegv »

jseban wrote: post #57
Fricken wrote: post #52

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It's better to be a driver. It's no fun. You don't get any exercise. It drives up infrastructure costs, kills and maims people, destroys the planet, and takes up even more space on the roads.

So, just use the subway then and your problems are solved. In a much better way than cycling.

Bikes solve the problem of the last-mile. Subways are expensive to build and dig, bikes gets you much further and literally anywhere. Add a bike station at your subway station and you have both working together.

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Post by peoplefromibiza »

bserge wrote: post #122
peoplefromibiza wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Been in Paris two weeks ago as well to visit my girlfriend who's been living there for 11 years. Scooters are in the process of being banned in Paris because they are too dangerous and in Rome, where I come from, they are going yo be heavily regulated (mandatory helmet, reduced speed, designated pick up and drop locations, etc. ) because they caused a +35% increase of brain traumas to teenagers Not everything that lo…

*teenagers who fall. Really could've been reduced by a lot with a few simple instructions in the app. Stick to the right, don't speed, be careful, etc. Who the fuck falls off a scooter, anyway.

Not a judgment on my side on teenagers, this is from an Italian source translated through Google

The numbers are quite bad

https://www-inmoto-it.translate.goog/news/altre-notizie/cron...

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