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Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by JediWing »

The launch of this phone was utterly botched.

There's a hilarious dissonance between the talk of SoC design, AI, computational photography and ambient computing and the inability to handle a website with a relatively simple purchase flow for a phone that, let's be real, probably has about 1/10 th of the interest and web traffic of the iPhone.

From the moment the store website went live with these phones there were all sorts of errors, and I ended up forgoing purchasing from the google store after trying to for an hour!

Once Best Buy went live with their stock, I instantly was able to pre-order with little issue. I'll be picking it up on release day there.

Fix the store, Google!

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by Jtsummers »

gameman144 wrote: post #95
psychometry wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thus the manual review. No one's going to be going to prison over a hash collision here.

But a manual reviewer in Cupertino or elsewhere still gets access to your personal (possibly very intimate or otherwise private) photos. Privacy from law enforcement is hardly the only privacy that people value.

If you desire privacy, never upload your images to any cloud service that doesn't offer true end-to-end encryption of the data (that is, one where they do not have the key). Use a service where data is only decryptable on your own devices or devices that you personally authorize. Which is, presently, none of the popular services that I'm aware of.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by ehsankia »

eric_b wrote: post #89

This will get downvoted immediately but what the heck. I understand we need better representation for people of color in many places - but dang Google, not a single white guy on the Pixel 6 page [0]?? Dozens of photos of people, not one white male. Sort of jarring in the reverse if you ask me. [0] https://store.google.com/product/pixel_6?hl=en-US Edit: Because the common reply to mine seems to be "Well now you know h…

1. Not true, I see at least 2 [0] [1]

2. Even if it was true, welcome to not being included for once in your entire life. Now maybe you can start to begin to understand what others have experienced basically every day of their life.

[0] https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/s6bCli03aqnY_KvZoPaTgiFqCj...

[1] https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Zq1FVWVv9GOCRJ3oHJg0PHzWgE...

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

#124

Post by jodrellblank »

flutas wrote: post #46
marcellus23 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apple’s stated intents to actively incriminate you by scanning your photos on a personal device More accurately put, their intent is to scan cloud photos for exact matches with known child pornography material (like every other cloud provider, including Google), and then have the case reviewed by a human only after multiple positives, and only then forwarding the case to law enforcement (based on photos you chose t…

> their intent is to scan cloud photos corrected: their intent is to scan all photos in your photo library, on your device, including images automatically pulled in from from various sources such as messages, if you have iCloud Photo enabled.

"The CSAM scanning system is a part of the iCloud Photos upload process and it will be triggered once the upload is initiated. Keep in mind that it does not scan private photo libraries stored on iPhone devices" - https://medium.com/codequest/technologies-behind-the-apples-...

If you want to "correct" the claim to say their intent is to scan every photo, citation needed.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by danellis »

darth_avocado wrote: post #48

Another garbage phone to show off. Google Pixel has been highly unreliable. My OG pixel XL bricked twice within 2 years. My Pixel 3 had defects that forced me to take calls on speaker phone otherwise the mic wouldn't work after the warranty expired. Meanwhile, my wife is still rocking the iPhone 7 with some degradation in battery life, but pretty much everything else working as it should. I don't regret jumping into…

What about it is garbage?

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by marginalia_nu »

kisamoto wrote: post #57

I think normally I'd look for the Pixel or the iPhone but my next purchase will be supporting FairPhone. When I think about how powerful I need my phone to be I don't need the best. I want something I can fix and update myself; something that's supported for more than a couple of years; something that is a little "better" for the planet. Does anybody use all of the new power of these incredible devices?

I stopped looking at what the marketers tell me I'm supposed to want in a phone, and went shopping for phones that have what I actually want: Durability and battery life. I've started getting those rugged phones of the sort they market at construction workers.

They're brilliant. Water/mud/dust/salt resistant, you can drop them however many times you feel like without cracking the screen, battery life is alomost two days (and that is while using the thing).

They're also pretty big and clunky, the camera is unimpressive, and the performance is middling at best, but I honestly don't mind that at all.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

#127

Post by marcellus23 »

gigel82 wrote: post #115
marcellus23 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> images automatically pulled in from from various sources such as messages As far as I am aware, this is false and there is no mechanism on iOS by which images are "automatically pulled into" the photo library from anywhere, Messages or otherwise. Do you have a source or an example of how that could happen? (edit: people are mentioning Whatsapp, which I guess has an option to auto-save received photos. Fair enough,…

I know Whatsapp photos that I never even opened (from groups I probably muted long ago) end up in the phone library whenever I do the (manual) monthly photo dump to my PC. But yes, I agree with the comment, there's no reason to hide between details: Apple plans to introduce the capability of scanning photos on your local device and comparing hashes against an opaque (non-reviewable) list of hashes that they (along wi…

Sure, but then don't pretend that this is not something every other cloud provider is doing (and has been doing) for years. This is only such a hot-button issue because 1) people love bashing Apple, and 2) Apple actually solicited feedback instead of implementing it silently behind the scenes.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by tootie »

Hot take: I haven't seen a compelling new phone feature from any manufacturer in as long as I can remember. I spend 99% of my tapping time sending texts, using a browser and taking pictures with the rear camera. Same as I did on my Droid X which was my first smart phone circa 2011.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by eric_b »

wffurr wrote: post #116
eric_b wrote: post #89

This will get downvoted immediately but what the heck. I understand we need better representation for people of color in many places - but dang Google, not a single white guy on the Pixel 6 page [0]?? Dozens of photos of people, not one white male. Sort of jarring in the reverse if you ask me. [0] https://store.google.com/product/pixel_6?hl=en-US Edit: Because the common reply to mine seems to be "Well now you know h…

How interesting that this clearly made made you uncomfortable. I imagine it's similar to how people of color feel when seeing seas of white faces on product pages past.

That was my point. It's ridiculous whichever extreme they choose. In 2021 when everything is about race and equity, I find it telling who its OK to exclude. Why couldn't they just have it be equal across the board?
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