Facebook Dangerous Individuals and Organizations List (Reproduced Snapshot)

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Oct 13, 2021, 12:02 AM UTC

throwaway8582 wrote: post #77

korethr wrote: post #3

Huh. There's a lot bands in the "Hate" section. Looking up the various names I'm finding various death metal and black metal bands. I can't help but wonder how many of those bands on are on that list because someone at Facebook took heavy metal imagery and lyrical themes too seriously and literally. More Edit: Turns out I picked a bad example. I missed reference to a name collision with an actual National Socialist b…

The "hate" section is about political censorship. It's full of people Facebook doesn't like, but can't throw under "crime" or "terror" because they aren't actually dangerous. Notice how the only groups in there are pro-white or white nationalist groups? Not to defend these groups, but by deciding to vilify these people while ignoring all other forms of racial and ethnic pride/nationalism/hatred, Facebook is sending a…

Post by alanlammiman » Wed, Oct 13, 2021, 12:33 AM UTC

m0zg wrote: post #61

No Antifa? Why, of course not. What's a few dead people and billions of dollars in damage between friends.

Post by alanlammiman » Wed, Oct 13, 2021, 12:42 AM UTC

kragen wrote: post #40

There's a lot of potential for false positives in a list like this. "Houthis", one of the groups in the "Terror" list, is actually the name of an ethnicity in northern Yemen (which is currently in insurrection against the Saudi-backed government of Yemen). "Ammar", another, is also the name of the prostitutes' union here in Argentina, AMMAR, which is not to my knowledge a violent group (despite having had one of thei…

Post by Jon_Lowtek » Wed, Oct 13, 2021, 2:03 AM UTC

chuckee wrote: post #115

Jon_Lowtek wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

germany has a law called "social network enforcement act" which requires big social media networks to have a german speaking team that enforces national laws and effectively handles complaints. And germany has outlawed national-socialist ideology for obvious reasons. I am honestly surprised that style of enforcement isn't more common internationally. (edit: got a detail wrong: the team does not need to physically be…

I don't know if you're aware, but that law (known as NetzDG: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Enforcement_Act ) does a lot more than what you described. It requires social networks to delete "obviously illegal" posts within 24 hours of receiving a complaint, or face a €5 million fine per offense. What social network will risk such a fine to keep a single post? > I am honestly surprised that style of enforcement…

Post by deadbolt » Wed, Oct 13, 2021, 4:58 AM UTC

chroem- wrote: post #88

tomjakubowski wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think your original post would have been better received if you had been more specific and named the groups you'd like to see censored.

That's part of the problem though: there is nobody keeping track of left wing terrorist groups in the US. We only have a clear picture of the PNWYLF and JBGC because they went around bombing and shooting people all last summer. To say the problem is limited to just a few groups is difficult, because A.) they are numerous with varying objectives, and B.) we just don't know how deep the rabbit hole goes.