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My first year at Magic Leap and the opportunity ahead

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Re: My first year at Magic Leap and the opportunity ahead

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Hololens 1 and Magic Leap don't have much of a difference. The Magic Leap has a greater FOV

And yet ML had to raise almost $5B to get to around ballpark with the Hololens which I assure you Microsoft invested substantially less money into and already has tens of billions in government contracts committed to use the thing.

What they could do, if they figure out the right play, with the right hardware, is make this a really compelling active entertainment device. You already saw haw popular Pokemon Go was... I think locking eyeballs to locations has VC's interested.

Re: My first year at Magic Leap and the opportunity ahead

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Are you serious? This looks like an undergraduate project hacked up with OpenCV.. I'd still give it an A though.

Yeah. I'm kind of left feeling like I'd rather fly the plane in a better looking simulated environment, with a first-person perspective. It's more flexible and fun than being tied to flying it in the environment around you. I still haven't seen a compelling use case for AR.

Coolest one I’ve seen is VR workspaces. Buying a $5k setup per head where they can work from space or the Grand Canyon with unlimited monitors, sit/stand/lay down, software upgrades (only a few pieces of hardware to replace), virtual meetings, building and modeling anything they want, etc

It’s still kinda clunky now, but the tech will get better. That’s a money saver (and a big improvement) with the main barriers being tech and familiarity, and those just come with time. Very bullish on that

Re: My first year at Magic Leap and the opportunity ahead

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If you have not experienced the magic leap videos do not do it justice. Heres my video flying inside my house: https://youtu.be/Grlk03MdScQ The jaw dropping aspects: - it correctly knows when to mask for the column - it does lighting effects from the planes headlights - it does particle collisions with my furniture when it crashes - it crashes by detecting i hit the wall It really is amazing tech but it is very unpol…

I have to say, I've been reading these comments who love or hate ML, treating them as just another internet argument As someone who was following the public hype but never actually saw what they released. This is absolutely completely terrible. The promises they made when they raised half a billion dollars 7 years ago as a stealth company backed by tech geniuses. If this is what they have today, what were they showin…

Just reserve judgement until you experience it yourself. You can't reproduce the experience on a 2D screen. That's the whole point.

Re: My first year at Magic Leap and the opportunity ahead

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post #123

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Yeah. I'm kind of left feeling like I'd rather fly the plane in a better looking simulated environment, with a first-person perspective. It's more flexible and fun than being tied to flying it in the environment around you. I still haven't seen a compelling use case for AR.

Coolest one I’ve seen is VR workspaces. Buying a $5k setup per head where they can work from space or the Grand Canyon with unlimited monitors, sit/stand/lay down, software upgrades (only a few pieces of hardware to replace), virtual meetings, building and modeling anything they want, etc It’s still kinda clunky now, but the tech will get better. That’s a money saver (and a big improvement) with the main barriers bei…

I dunno, I still can't quite see the potential of that. And even if they did get it working perfectly, then they're following in the footsteps of other people who've already done this on headsets that are a fraction of the price (like Immersed or Virtual Desktop).

Even if they do manage to create mind-blowing hardware, they aren't exactly cornering a market here.

Re: My first year at Magic Leap and the opportunity ahead

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>> This is like the amiga. Problem is it was marketed like a supercomputer and what we got was an Amiga. Which is fine for the hobbyist nerds who can see the potential. Not so good for literally anyone else.

I do not disagree. They are kinda doing the Tesla approach now (or as of 2019) where they are trying to sell a higher end experience. Their medical demos / apps were really awesome. You could place a virtual cadaver on the physical table. When they work out view sharing that is gonna be amazing for collaboration. They have a dream of "5G cities" where everyone walks around with these things fully connected. I think t…

They have a dream of "5G cities" where everyone walks around with these things fully connected.

That's a nightmare. See "Hyperreality"[1], if you haven't. That may be the future of AR. Especially if Facebook is involved.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJg02ivYzSs

Re: My first year at Magic Leap and the opportunity ahead

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If you have not experienced the magic leap videos do not do it justice. Heres my video flying inside my house: https://youtu.be/Grlk03MdScQ The jaw dropping aspects: - it correctly knows when to mask for the column - it does lighting effects from the planes headlights - it does particle collisions with my furniture when it crashes - it crashes by detecting i hit the wall It really is amazing tech but it is very unpol…

"it correctly knows when to mask for the column"

correctly? https://imgur.com/h3zHxDW

Re: My first year at Magic Leap and the opportunity ahead

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Are you serious? This looks like an undergraduate project hacked up with OpenCV.. I'd still give it an A though.

As I said, video does not do it justice. If you walk around while flying everything stays very well locked in place. It probably _is_ using OpenCV under the hood.

I normally don't like to pile on with negativity, but I'd argue the video does do it justice. I played with one myself (the only one I ever saw in the wild and she only had one because her SO was one of the original investors) and it was similar to what the video shows. My first experience with VR was impressive, Magic Leap was a disappointment.

The background is dark, the occlusions are bad, the hardware is large, and the FOV is poor.

Magic Leap really burned a lot of good will imo by sucking up enormous amounts of AR funding having 'demo' marketing that was at best intentionally misleading if not just fraudulent.

I'm still bullish on AR being the next platform when the hardware is ready, but I'd bet on Apple or Oculus pulling that off, I wouldn't go near anything from Magic Leap.

This about sums it up: https://twitter.com/fernandojsg/status/1017411969169555457

It's a little reminiscent of General Magic - something like the AR they want is likely to exist in the future, but I'd surprised if it's from them.

Can you imagine Steve Jobs shipping something at the quality level of that video?

Re: My first year at Magic Leap and the opportunity ahead

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post #128

If you have not experienced the magic leap videos do not do it justice. Heres my video flying inside my house: https://youtu.be/Grlk03MdScQ The jaw dropping aspects: - it correctly knows when to mask for the column - it does lighting effects from the planes headlights - it does particle collisions with my furniture when it crashes - it crashes by detecting i hit the wall It really is amazing tech but it is very unpol…

"it correctly knows when to mask for the column" correctly? https://imgur.com/h3zHxDW

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