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Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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> If you are producing videos at such a rate that you as the producer cannot actually save the content, then maybe you're doing it wrong. You can film 8K video on a smartphone these days… but only about 15 minutes of it before you fill up the phone’s internal storage. If you don’t have a computer with a big hard drive to dump the video off on, you’re basically stuck shoving the video out to “the cloud” and then delet…

When you can get 10TB [ EDIT: 4TB ] external drives for around $100, this is totally absurd pathway to take towards "preserving your own culture".

I'd love to know where I can get drives that cheap.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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> Private companies seem to be the only ones with the resources to store all the video content we produce, If you are producing videos at such a rate that you as the producer cannot actually save the content, then maybe you're doing it wrong . If you are producing content for the exclusive use/distribution by a private company that is known to have draconian automated decision making processes, you have to expect tha…

This is deeply ignorant of the actual reality. Most content creator are not technically savvy nor have the ability to setup any kind of distribution service. Also, you're missing the whole point of video streaming, which is becoming huge. I've know youtubers that did upload videos as a hobby, but couldn't even afford to keep them locally stored in their hard drives after a few years. Makes the videos less valuable? I…

Not being technically savvy is such a strawman. I'm not missing the point of video streaming. Most of my career is because of video streaming.

If you build a house of straw because you're not technically savvy to build it out of brick doesn't mean you get to complain that the wind blew it down even if it was a big bad wolf. If you don't do something right, it's nobody's fault but your own. It's often called growing pains. Backups are a lesson best learned before they are needed but regularly only thought about after data is lost.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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This isn't a great specific example (it's "just" a meme and not even a particularly culturally significant one in the grand scheme of things), but in general this is why projects like youtube-dl are important. It might not be glamorous, and it might be a little stupid, but damnit this is our culture, for better or worse! And we should preserve it. Private companies seem to be the only ones with the resources to store…

I wonder if this could be solved with having several YouTube's. The storage can be central but maybe there can be several legal and sanctioned ways to access the videos. We already have YouTube kids. Why not also open up the market to license YouTube storage and allow other companies to make clients. It's a half baked idea but I think it can work. Right now there is no difference between premium and non premium YouTube apart from lack of ads. Everything else like background playback is an artificial barrier introduced by yt which they charge to remove. There is no creativity in this space because nobody can innovate apart from youtube. And honestly YouTube is shit at innovating.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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Isn't YouTube headquartered in one of those countries that officially consider foreign war crime tribunals directed at their citizens a reason to invade the responsible country?

I looked it up and YouTube is indeed headquartered in the United States of America, a known rogue state that regularly commits war crimes.

We should probably stop trusting them with the video cultural memory of the Internet.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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I don't have enough disk space to archive every video I've every watched.

You probably do. Let's say you watch new and unique youtube videos for an hour a day, or 365 hours a year. (This is a lot more than I watch, btw) Let's say we have 5Mbps videos, or half a megabyte per second. 365 * 60 * 60 * 0.5 = 657G/year A 1TB disk is about $50, for about $25/year to store it at home. If you upload your videos to S3 Glacier it'll run around $8/year (per year, so after a few years this is more expe…

I definitely do not.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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This is truly wrong. Far from censorship, this is a field test of memory-holing. Deleting a part of the history of the Internet (yes, this silly little nonsense video is now part of Modern Culture) is a Rubicon I'm shocked YouTube has the temerity to cross. I can't wait to see what more conventional history they'll delete. For now, note the conscious blowing-off, on YouTube's part, of all the re-uploads. Will they al…

I think you are confusing Youtube with a NGO. Google is a for profit company. Their mission is to make money, not to archive the internet. They are not your friend. Nor anybody's friend.

Exactly. They are on the side of making money and do not care about taking anyone's videos down.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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I don't have enough disk space to archive every video I've every watched.

You probably do. Let's say you watch new and unique youtube videos for an hour a day, or 365 hours a year. (This is a lot more than I watch, btw) Let's say we have 5Mbps videos, or half a megabyte per second. 365 * 60 * 60 * 0.5 = 657G/year A 1TB disk is about $50, for about $25/year to store it at home. If you upload your videos to S3 Glacier it'll run around $8/year (per year, so after a few years this is more expe…

> Let's say you watch new and unique youtube videos for an hour a day,

I wonder for how many users this is true. I personally watch several hours a day of youtube because it's mostly on in the background instead of music. Lots of infotainment channels. I'm pretty sure on average it's like 20mins per day can't find the source though.

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