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For those who don't want to wait, there's DigitalOcean Spaces ( https://www.digitalocean.com/products/spaces/ ). Disclaimer: I haven't used it, but planning to, since I already use their VPS.
Scaleway also provides a similar service. Had an issue recently (deleted a bucket, and couldn't create another bucket with the same name) and their support replied back in minutes .
Not sure why this is more appealing than Wasabi? As far as I can see, Wasabi is cheaper, has great speeds, fantastic S3 compatibility, their dashboard is a joy to use so what is the actual "special" thing here? I mean sure, it's a good thing to have more competition but the way everyone here is describing the situation makes it seem as if Cloudflare is going to be the cheapest & the best.
The main question: how can Cloudflare make this into a sustainable business?
* cost/gb is cheaper or same as s3, gcp, azure
* no egress charges to customers, but they still have to pay for transit when they cross an AS!
what is the hidden angle Cloudfare is using here?
Very generous offer from Cloudflare. I signed up. The main question: how can Cloudflare make this into a sustainable business? * cost/gb is cheaper or same as s3, gcp, azure * no egress charges to customers, but they still have to pay for transit when they cross an AS! what is the hidden angle Cloudfare is using here?
Eg. What could be the hidden angle of providing domains at cost ( which they do).
I think it's a matter of having a more complete cloud suite and expanding their portfolio while gaining market share.
Clarification: I don't think they do this at cost. Just cheaper than the big 3.
Very generous offer from Cloudflare. I signed up. The main question: how can Cloudflare make this into a sustainable business? * cost/gb is cheaper or same as s3, gcp, azure * no egress charges to customers, but they still have to pay for transit when they cross an AS! what is the hidden angle Cloudfare is using here?
The offer is no doubt competitively prized, but it's no doubt much more lucrative than people using Cloudflare as a CDN for their s3/b2/azure/whatever.
We all knew that the big players are really maximising their profits on the egress charges, so I can see that this left some potential for someone to step in. No egress charges at all still sound a bit too good to be true, but it would be nice as that's just one parameter less to think about.
Another interesting aspect are CloudFlare Workers. As far as I can tell they're not a full replacement for something like AWS Lambda if e.g. I need to do a bit heavier stuff on the data in R2. Being able to do heavier processing close to the actual data would be really interesting as well.
Very generous offer from Cloudflare. I signed up. The main question: how can Cloudflare make this into a sustainable business? * cost/gb is cheaper or same as s3, gcp, azure * no egress charges to customers, but they still have to pay for transit when they cross an AS! what is the hidden angle Cloudfare is using here?
Can somebody TL;DR what does being member of the "bandwidth alliance" mean?
Very generous offer from Cloudflare. I signed up. The main question: how can Cloudflare make this into a sustainable business? * cost/gb is cheaper or same as s3, gcp, azure * no egress charges to customers, but they still have to pay for transit when they cross an AS! what is the hidden angle Cloudfare is using here?
> no egress charges to customers, but they still have to pay for transit when they cross an AS! Can somebody TL;DR what does being member of the "bandwidth alliance" mean?
Cloud providers normally have huge profits on egress data ( outgoing) and not incoming data ( to attract giving them your data).
This additionally incentives customers to stay within a certain cloud and not using competing products based on costs ( since egress costs to a 3rd party makes the price difference obsolete)
Cloudflare ( i think) started the bandwidth alliance to make these prices more fair. As in: work together, have direct network connections and reduce customer billing.
AWS didn't want to join as they are n°1 currently: https://blog.cloudflare.com/aws-egregious-egress/
This is interesting ... For the longest time we tried to convince people that they should have an off-amazon archive of their S3 data ... we even ran an ads to that effect in 2012[1]. The (obvious) reason this isn't compelling is the cost of egress. It's just (relatively) too expensive to offload your S3 assets to some third party on a regular basis. So if R2 is S3 with no egress, suddenly there is a value propositio…
> So if R2 is S3 with no egress, suddenly there is a value proposition again. That doesn't appear to be what they're doing, they don't seem to have changed their existing operating model at all: > R2 will zero-rate infrequent storage operations under a threshold — currently planned to be in the single digit requests per second range. Above this range, R2 will charge significantly less per-operation than the major pro…
Not sure why this is more appealing than Wasabi? As far as I can see, Wasabi is cheaper, has great speeds, fantastic S3 compatibility, their dashboard is a joy to use so what is the actual "special" thing here? I mean sure, it's a good thing to have more competition but the way everyone here is describing the situation makes it seem as if Cloudflare is going to be the cheapest & the best.
>If your monthly egress data transfer is greater than your active storage volume, then your storage use case is not a good fit for Wasabi’s free egress policy
>If your use case exceeds the guidelines of our free egress policy on a regular basis, we reserve the right to limit or suspend your service
Unless I am misreading, wasabi can shut you down if your egress is high.