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Re: My Room in 3D

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Post by errantspark »

gmueckl wrote: post #78
errantspark wrote: post #6

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Don't be daunted, it just takes time. You'll get faster at it with practice, but the first step is simply brute force, or at least it was for me. Take a picture of something simple, recreate it in 3D with exacting detail. When something doesn't match you drill down, find the optical phenomenon that you weren't modeling correctly, and fix it. That's it. There's no shortcut to being good at this stuff, you just have to…

The things that you list as shortcuts aren't actually shortcuts, but the best tools for their respective jobs. To put it differently: this is what renderers were aspiring to from the start, but couldn't quite reach initially in real world applications because if a severe lack of computing power. So, for the better part of three decades, computer graphics relied on ugly shortcuts that required laborious workarounds fr…

True! I meant shortcut in a more sapiocentric way, i.e. "These are the top 3 things you can quickly google and implement for a big realism gain for low effort cost."

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Post by pjmlp »

esjeon wrote: post #49

It's certainly a good time to become a 3D graphics developer, or at least be proficient at it. WebGL simply works. The internet is fast enough to ship a lot of assets. Even phones can render tons of graphical elements. Mix in WASM and it's pretty much golden. The world-wide-web is the true VR.

No, it doesn't simply work, unless one is happy with targeting what is basically 2012 hardware, doing software rendering, if the browser happens to black list the client's system for whatever reason.

Just like WASM is pretty much stuck in MVP 1.0, if one cares about support across most browsers.

And WebGPU, won't be much better, as it might finally land in 2022 as MVP 1.0, take again another 10 years for wide adoption and has a crazy mix of C++, Rust and HLSL shading language as compromise among all involved parties.

No wonder that streaming 3D as video, while using headless Vulkan and DirectX 12 Ultimate cards, seems to actually be the future of 3D on the Web.

Re: My Room in 3D

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Post by sgt »

Mikeb85 wrote: post #112
sgt wrote: post #92

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I tried WebGL about a year ago, and it wasn't ready yet. It spun up CPU quite a bit, and was a different experience in terms of performance across browsers. Has this changed in the last year?

What do you mean you 'tried' WebGL? It's just OpenGL in the browser. As mentioned, it just works just like OpenGL/Vulkan/DirectX just works. Now, various WebGL frameworks (Three.js, Babylon.js, etc...) are more performant or easier to use or whatever. Or you can compile native 3D platforms to wasm. Which did you try?

I see your point. I used a WebGL framework (Three.js), not compilation to Wasm. In the case of the latter, what is the best way to start?

Re: My Room in 3D

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Post by pjmlp »

Mikeb85 wrote: post #112
sgt wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried WebGL about a year ago, and it wasn't ready yet. It spun up CPU quite a bit, and was a different experience in terms of performance across browsers. Has this changed in the last year?

What do you mean you 'tried' WebGL? It's just OpenGL in the browser. As mentioned, it just works just like OpenGL/Vulkan/DirectX just works. Now, various WebGL frameworks (Three.js, Babylon.js, etc...) are more performant or easier to use or whatever. Or you can compile native 3D platforms to wasm. Which did you try?

OpenGL/Vulkan/DirectX just work, WebGL depends on the whims of the browser and how it evaluates the client machine, eventually blacklisting it, or replacing calls with software emulation instead.

OpenGL/Vulkan/DirectX can use 2021 hardware capabilites, WebGL is stuck on a GL ES 3.0 subset, basically 2012 hardware.

Cool if you want to do iPhone 6 style graphics, but that is about it.

Re: My Room in 3D

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Post by bnegreve »

nine_k wrote: post #115
bnegreve wrote: post #99

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Of course there are different shades of white, what I am saying is that the color of the sun during the day is what people most would classify as "white" and not as "yellow" if it the color was printed on a sheet of paper. If the sun color was actually yellow, people wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a white object and yellow object under the sun light (they would both appear yellow). And clearly they a…

Sunlight is wide-band (see "black body spectrum"). This is why a white object (that reflects all light equally) and a yellow object (which mostly reflects reds and greens) are discernible under such light, even under sunset light which is visibly yellow or orange. The sunset orange light still contains many other colors. A yellow object and a white object would be not discernible under a very narrow-band yellow light…

Look, my point is simple: if you agree that snow and sugar are white, then the sunlight is also white.

It has to be because white was historically described as the color of the snow (or whatever is white) under the sunlight.

Now, if you want to adopt a more precise definition of white and other colors, based on (not so) recent scientific insights about the light, you can. Then the sunlight is not white, neither is snow or sugar. And is also certainly not yellow.

Let's be honest, the sun light is almost perfectly white, and kids use yellow to draw the sun, because it wouldn't make sense to draw it with white.

Re: My Room in 3D

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Post by leoedin »

tn1 wrote: post #24

I sometimes use SweetHome3D to visualize spaces. It's a little more accessible being point-and-click CAD, and it takes arbitrary objects in OBJ format (and others). You won't be able to get quite to this level but it can render surprisingly well http://www.sweethome3d.com/

I've used SweetHome3D to plan various rooms for renovation - it's very intuitive and surprisingly powerful. Definitely better than trying to do building design with a "real" CAD package. The built in library is pretty comprehensive (and has nice scaling features, so even if a bookshelf model doesn't match yours, you can scale it easily to match), and importing custom 3D CAD designs is straightforward.

Re: My Room in 3D

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Post by hyperknot »

Does anyone know what is the GUI library on the right hand side? I've seen it on multiple websites but the classnames doesn't reveal anything.

Re: My Room in 3D

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Post by Mikeb85 »

sgt wrote: post #125
Mikeb85 wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean you 'tried' WebGL? It's just OpenGL in the browser. As mentioned, it just works just like OpenGL/Vulkan/DirectX just works. Now, various WebGL frameworks (Three.js, Babylon.js, etc...) are more performant or easier to use or whatever. Or you can compile native 3D platforms to wasm. Which did you try?

I see your point. I used a WebGL framework (Three.js), not compilation to Wasm. In the case of the latter, what is the best way to start?

Yeah Three.js is slow.

Godot and Unity can both compile to wasm so I'd try out one of those.

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