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Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

#121

I would define myself as pretty progressive, but Reddit's been absolutely dog** due to all the anti-capitalist, populist rhetoric. Every post seems to be filled with comments these days of "eat the rich". Like, you'll have a gif of a dude petting a dog, and then in the comments, they'll be like, "Bro, you're financially oppressing this dog and that's why it's forced to be pet by you" (Hyperbole, but I've seen some cr…

Which is why Lemmy needs more users to promote diversity and mainstream usage. Right now its filled with leftists mostly because they get banned from sites like reddit. The thing I enjoy about Lemmy is that you can join an instance and if you don't agree with the policies and the people there you can join a different instance.

https://github.com/innereq/lenny#the-lemmy-problem

Having more users isn't going to help if the core developers are anti-diversity.

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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The front-end is still buggy and needs a designer's touch. And the real-time aspects wear thin at scale with all the notifications in a mismatch of languages showing up in the main feed. Lemmy is practically unusable without a personal feed filter, it seems that of the new reddit alternatives only retalk_[1] want to get this right. If you do decide to run an instance of lemmy be sure to nuke the absurd word filter -…

For reference, some context about word filtering: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/622 And here's the related code: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/blob/3b37ea6c8beeaa57754df... edit: I don't get the instant -2 downvotes for just providing context.

Just as an update to this, it seems like the devs have given in: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/1773

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

#123

The front-end is still buggy and needs a designer's touch. And the real-time aspects wear thin at scale with all the notifications in a mismatch of languages showing up in the main feed. Lemmy is practically unusable without a personal feed filter, it seems that of the new reddit alternatives only retalk_[1] want to get this right. If you do decide to run an instance of lemmy be sure to nuke the absurd word filter -…

How strange they would include word filters that are hard to edit. Seems counter to their whole mission...what? Edit: actually it would make sense if word filters themselves were hard to add. But having their own filter and making that hard to edit is bonkers.

It seems like it is going away soon(tm): https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/1773

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

#124
post #85

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Reading the whole bug, it's literally a political stance with no teeth or real purpose. It's bizarrely all for show, serves no real purpose, is functionally deficient, and the DEVs know this. Further, a 10 line script could easily patch each new version, replacing the hardcoded code with a loadable text file. Done. Updates would take zero time to deploy. It's all about taking a position. Taking a position is fine. Bu…

> Reading the whole bug Is there a link where I can also read this bug?

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/622

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

#125

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Independent as in: closed off? Servers that don't federate are extremely rare ime, except for the likes of Gab that most people just choose not to federate with.

Remote follow don’t work as good as hardcore users would like it to. Federation mechanisms would have to have kilo- to mega-posts/second bandwidth but not happening. Also that federation choice being in hand of instance owners makes an account on each instances a must. You are going to have a person or two that your instance owners don’t like, or instance or two that don’t like yours.

Curious – I run my own pleroma instance for myself on a tiny VPS and I'm seeing no problems at all, with remote follows or any other interactions.

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

#127

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From a cursory look running the backend is close to as simple as installing libpq and then cargo build --release and then creating the PostgreSQL user and database, and editing a config file then running the lemmy binary. I don’t see a problem. Serving the frontend cannot be a challenge either I imagine but I didn’t bother looking at the frontend.

Thanks for the pointer. I guess I was more thinking about the culture involved in explicitly denouncing a from-source build. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

I suppose the Ansible and Docker versions are both built from the source, in a reproducible manner. What would you gain by going through the build steps manually by yourself?

From my point of view, having to build things is a hassle: one needs the dependencies, it will work differently on different OSes/distros, the maintainer needs to keep the build instructions up-to-date and verify manually that they won't break (for all OSes/distros). Ansible or Docker just gives you a reproducible thing, easier to verify in one step whether the build instructions in it still work.

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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post #127

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Thanks for the pointer. I guess I was more thinking about the culture involved in explicitly denouncing a from-source build. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

I suppose the Ansible and Docker versions are both built from the source, in a reproducible manner. What would you gain by going through the build steps manually by yourself? From my point of view, having to build things is a hassle: one needs the dependencies, it will work differently on different OSes/distros, the maintainer needs to keep the build instructions up-to-date and verify manually that they won't break (…

> What would you gain by going through the build steps manually by yourself?

To know your enemy, you must become your enemy - Sun Tzu, "The Art of War".

Developers as well as operators should read Sun Tzu and take what they read to heed. To know what you're running it makes sense to know what you're installing. While this still leaves open the chance of the actual code being riddled with nasty bits it at least removes the chance of the Ansible playbook or dockerfile adding something "extra".

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

#129
post #93

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The creators say they don't want people not of their ilk joining so this idea that open debate is welcome is disingenuous. They don't allow anyone to federate with the main instance either if they don't also toe the political line.

I did not say it was welcome. Learning how to talk with others and understand one another better is real work. I did say it was worth doing, more or less.

> I did say it was worth doing

it is not worth anyone's time

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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post #115

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By and large what “isn’t allowed” on major tech platforms is racist, xenophobic, and homophobic content. You can still find a lot of non-PC, fringe content on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter and Reddit. I get that censorship in major tech platforms is problematic, but the sense of martyrdom in comments like yours feels a little overwrought.

Are you even paying attention? This isn't true. You can be censored from social media for all sorts these days. This last year we had a UK media organisation banned from YouTube for questioning the UK COVID response. People in the US are no longer allowed to question the legitimacy of their elections on most social media platforms. Even US media outlets like the NYPost were censored for running stories Twitter didn't…

>I'm not coming at this from any political position.

Saying that after your previous paragraphs doesn't erase the political content of that previous paragraphs.

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