What Computer Science program would leave you buried in CSS for 2.5 years? If he meant he spent 2.5 years working with CSS on the side, why didn't he ever think "maybe I should learn legacy support"?
He thought that's what the "CS" in "CSS" meant.
I don't know how to IE6
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Re: I don't know how to IE6
#122Why did you have the impression a B.S. in CompSci would teach you about legacy browser support? I dunno, the first few weeks of my internship I had to do the same thing. If nothing else it was a great way to learn about what the company did by doing low-level grunt work. However I'd really recommend that if this is all you'll be doing for the duration of the internship, maybe look for something else. Otherwise be tha…
Progress? Why do some graybeards feel this sadistic need to make juniors learn pointless stuff (which archaic legacy support kludges for buggy browsers certainly are)? Please note that you may have spent better part of the last 10 years slowly learning about these workarounds, while making your own mistakes. This is the most pointless type of elitism I have ever seen. Why not use the new advanced knowledge, this kids…
I had to double-check to make sure you were actually responding to me. I'm the opposite of a greybeard, but thank you.
I was not trying to be grizzled when I responded, just realistic. Doing IE6 support is still a pretty fresh memory for me. It's just realistic.
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#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
Progress? Why do some graybeards feel this sadistic need to make juniors learn pointless stuff (which archaic legacy support kludges for buggy browsers certainly are)? Please note that you may have spent better part of the last 10 years slowly learning about these workarounds, while making your own mistakes. This is the most pointless type of elitism I have ever seen. Why not use the new advanced knowledge, this kids…
I had to double-check to make sure you were actually responding to me. I'm the opposite of a greybeard, but thank you. I was not trying to be grizzled when I responded, just realistic. Doing IE6 support is still a pretty fresh memory for me. It's just realistic.
I don't know if I misread your post or you edited it afterwards. When I originally read it I have seen punctuation that made your post imply that legacy browser support SHOULD be taught and that rookies SHOULD be indoctrinated in legacy support.
I apologize for misreading your post.
p.s.: If you had to support IE6 - then you are a graybeard :D. Even if you are a 25 year old graybeard.
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#124Oh goodness how I despise Internet Explorer.
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#125IE what is that? I only know Chrome and Firefox.
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#126http://www.ie6countdown.com/ "We should stop supporting IE6" "What percentage of people use IE6?" "10%" "Hmm, 10% sounds like a lot of people ... let's support it!"
10% of the population of the world use IE6, but that is heavily weighted by countries such as China (34%) and South Korea (22%) If your target audience is English-speaking or European countries, the relevant proportion is 2% to 3% or less. That's a pretty good level to start to consider whether supporting that small percentage is actually making you more money than you would if you didn't support their browser.
Remember also that it depends on your market. If you're making web apps for small businesses or banks...
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#127I think all websites should just ban together and direct IE users to a landing page with download links of the other 3 "superior" browsers or if they must use IE they can download Chrome Plus that lets you open IE tabs. Then on the bottom of the landing page they have a choice of proceeding anyway, with caution of course. If people just saw side-by-side comparisons of how CSS renders in IE and the rest of the conforming browsers people would switch in a heartbeat.
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#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
I had to double-check to make sure you were actually responding to me. I'm the opposite of a greybeard, but thank you. I was not trying to be grizzled when I responded, just realistic. Doing IE6 support is still a pretty fresh memory for me. It's just realistic.
I don't know if I misread your post or you edited it afterwards. When I originally read it I have seen punctuation that made your post imply that legacy browser support SHOULD be taught and that rookies SHOULD be indoctrinated in legacy support. I apologize for misreading your post. p.s.: If you had to support IE6 - then you are a graybeard :D. Even if you are a 25 year old graybeard.
Nope, never edited it.
edit: Also, I really like the layout of your blog. The font & placement of your headlines is really nice.
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#129Just speaking for me, but I was able to quit supporting IE6 around the time Facebook dropped its support for it. If you have business clients, they want the social and if social media doesn't care about outdated garbage they don't. It saves me and the clients time and money. Reading this guys post did make me smile though, I remember all to well my days in IE6 - good ol' png fix, ah how I miss those shitty gray boxes around all my lovely images.
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#130If IE6 is a problem for you I suggest you don't venture too far into the world of mobile devices.