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There's an idea: If you want to convert a dwelling to short stay accommodation you have to also make it available for x days per year for crisis accommodation.
This is how the civil reserve air fleet works. If an airline wants to receive military contracts it has to make a portion of it’s fleet available for emergency use. I’m personally not a big fan of these sorts of neoliberal public private partnerships. But at least with conventional thinking it’s not that bad of an idea. Not sure why you’re getting all these downvotes.
Airbnb offers free accommodation for 20k Afghan refugees
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#122This is one of those things where lots of people, though judging from the thread maybe not as many as I'd expected here, will applaud. A wealthy, successful, American company is "stepping up" in a humanitarian crisis caused by the United States' misguided (to put it mildly) aspirations for a country that ultimately had little interest in western-style governance. And so it goes, these Afghan refugees will enter into…
All sub saharien africans cleaning dishes in our European restaurants live that shock.
My grand pa after his first day as a miner in Belgium, wanted to run back under the sun of his Croatian village. But stayed for his friends he met in the hole.
You land in a totally different environment, and have to adapt, and most do as they can.
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It did until a few days ago.
At least legally, the US had no “rights” over Afghanistan. Afghanistan was not a colony, territory or state of the US. The government was “free” to kick out the US whenever they wanted.
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“The alternative to occupation would be a more complete destruction of the country.” You seem to be conflating a theocratic regime being in charge with the bloodshed of war, or as you call it, occupation. A great many people died and were horribly injured throughout the 20 year war. But you think the wrong regime would have been a “more complete destruction?”
So the way I see it, there no way we can tolerate the Taliban facilitating attacks on US soil. So after the initial invasion and defeat of Taliban forces, what is the correct move? Occupation didn’t work, but leaving after overthrowing the theocracy just allows the theocracy to reform. It seems to me that a more thorough elimination of the remaining Taliban is the only other option here. I am legitimately asking what…
Re: Airbnb offers free accommodation for 20k Afghan refugees
#125This is one of those things where lots of people, though judging from the thread maybe not as many as I'd expected here, will applaud. A wealthy, successful, American company is "stepping up" in a humanitarian crisis caused by the United States' misguided (to put it mildly) aspirations for a country that ultimately had little interest in western-style governance. And so it goes, these Afghan refugees will enter into…
All emigrants live that, isn't it? All sub saharien africans cleaning dishes in our European restaurants live that shock. My grand pa after his first day as a miner in Belgium, wanted to run back under the sun of his Croatian village. But stayed for his friends he met in the hole. You land in a totally different environment, and have to adapt, and most do as they can.
I migrated from South America to Europe a couple of years ago and I didn't suffer any shock --- of course there are some differences, but I believe since both are western cultures the things in common dampen most of the shock.
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think the parent comment is describing the humanitarian crisis going this far back, but the US is at least partially responsible for the pre-9/11 Taliban going back to the support of the Afghan mujahideen in the Cold War. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghan_mujahideen#Relationship... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Taliban#Foreign_inf...
I tried to untangle all this stuff, but it looked really complicated. Apparently the US encouraged radical Islam as a way of opposing Soviet occupation - resisting state-sponsored atheism and culture and all. But there were a bunch of mujahideen groups, spanning multiple ethnic groups and ideologies. After the occupation ended, a bunch of the groups signed onto the Peshawar Accord to create a government, but a few of…
Not exactly about the radicalisation but I found this a good background to the current state of the country.
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
So the way I see it, there no way we can tolerate the Taliban facilitating attacks on US soil. So after the initial invasion and defeat of Taliban forces, what is the correct move? Occupation didn’t work, but leaving after overthrowing the theocracy just allows the theocracy to reform. It seems to me that a more thorough elimination of the remaining Taliban is the only other option here. I am legitimately asking what…
I had one idea. Invest $60-80 billion dollars a year in infrastructure and humanitarian projects inside Afghanistan from 2002-2020. That's about triple their total GDP and similar to the cost of war. That investment gradually leads to deradicalization, both because people become better educated and happier, but also because they start to see the US as a legitimate friend.
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I don’t think that’s fair. I drive past hundreds of homeless people who are already here in the US every day. I applaud Airbnb for this move, but I also can’t ignore the fact that it’s a moment in the news cycle that determines these people are getting help and these ones aren’t.
Why does Airbnb offer free stays to refugees in Afghanistan, but not homeless in the US? First, Airbnb is very host-centered. The host can pick their guests, make changes to their reservations, etc. I think if they said “your house will host homeless, but don’t worry we will pay you anyway”, they’d lose 70% of US hosts regardless. The shelter is only part of the problem with homelessness, going hand in hand with at l…
These refugees aren't in Kabul any more; airbnb is probably paying market rates, or close to them, though perhaps not in DC or SF.
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think the parent comment is describing the humanitarian crisis going this far back, but the US is at least partially responsible for the pre-9/11 Taliban going back to the support of the Afghan mujahideen in the Cold War. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghan_mujahideen#Relationship... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Taliban#Foreign_inf...
I tried to untangle all this stuff, but it looked really complicated. Apparently the US encouraged radical Islam as a way of opposing Soviet occupation - resisting state-sponsored atheism and culture and all. But there were a bunch of mujahideen groups, spanning multiple ethnic groups and ideologies. After the occupation ended, a bunch of the groups signed onto the Peshawar Accord to create a government, but a few of…
Jihadists.
Radicals and mujahideen are the terms the US media and government use when they're attacking non-Muslims/infidels for reasons the US is onboard with.
They didn't just encourage them. They armed and trained them and kept them supplied with everything they needed to create destruction.
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Or we could just, y'know, produce enough homeless shelters or crisis housing ourselves, through the government + taxes. Trying to twist the private sector's arm into doing this themselves is stupid, it's not their wheelhouse, just tax their profits and have the government do it.
Well, with all due sarcasm: that seems to be working.