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Re: Lenovo Selling Linux Laptops Directly in the US

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Post by jsilence »

MrPatan wrote: post #75
young_unixer wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the only thing stopping me from buying an X1 Carbon. I had decided to buy a Dell Latitude instead, but apparently Dell did something similar [1], so now I don't know what to buy. Maybe a Huawei? AFAIK they haven't been caught in these shenanigans yet, but I still don't feel comfortable with them for some reason. God, the laptop market is awful. [1] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/11/superfish-20-now-dell-.…

If spyware concerns keep you from Lenovo and you then consider Huawei.... I don't know, man.

I read that as a 'tongue in cheek' comment.

Re: Lenovo Selling Linux Laptops Directly in the US

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Post by daggersandscars »

Two notes on the X, P, and T laptops:

Lenovo's case design does not provide support for the USB-C connectors. The only support is the connector's attachment to the motherboard. If the port is damaged, the motherboard must be replaced.

If you only use USB-C ports with the laptop securely on a table or in a stand, this is not an issue. Sitting the laptop vertically on the floor, with the charger plugged in, and having it tip over onto a chair leg was enough to break the port loose. If you are used to Apple laptops, which provide significant support for USB-C connectors via the case, this may come as a surprise.

If you are coming from a lifetime of Apple laptops: primary cooling is done through the bottom of the laptop. Using it on a lap, pillow, carpet, blanket, etc may adversely impact performance / increase fan noise.

Other than these use-case specific issues, I've enjoyed the laptops. Get the upgraded screens if it fits your budget -- the low cost screens are intended for bulk purchases for corporate use and feel like using a laptop from 10+ years ago.

Current Lenovos: P1 (2020), X1 Carbon (2018), T14s (2019).

Edited to add note about Apple's cases providing USB-C connector support.

Re: Lenovo Selling Linux Laptops Directly in the US

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Post by diragon »

CSDude wrote: post #45
darthrupert wrote: post #30

They have been selling laptops without os for quite some time. I guess having a preinstall has some use but not much for me. The E14 gen3 is looking pretty nice for myself. Zen 3 ryzen (not quite M1 levels of raw power but not too far behind) with 24G ram and 512+1000G SSD for little over 1000 euros.

Had E14 gen2. Was very happy except screen. Colors are wrong and not visible when in bright environment. Sold it and got an M1. For compile, programming etc. tasks its 2-3x faster.

Did you run Linux or Windows on it?

> Sold it and got an M1. For compile, programming etc. tasks its 2-3x faster.

You mean the M1 is? That seems slightly incredible. 20-50% improvement I would've accepted easily, but 200-300% seems a bit on the high side.

Re: Lenovo Selling Linux Laptops Directly in the US

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Post by distances »

rjzzleep wrote: post #100
distances wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Restocking fee must be some US only concept. At least that won't fly in EU.

Any idea if the accidental damage protection in the EU covers has international coverage? Probably the most annoying thing about Lenovo is that all their insurance partners are different depending on which region you buy their devices from.

Nope, no idea. I would cover accidental damage through my house/travel insurance.

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Post by ianai »

_trampeltier wrote: post #96
quadrifoliate wrote: post #88

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> why does nobody in the US talk about Fujitsu laptops?! Probably little to no corporate availability? My past jobs have had Dell or Thinkpads as an option, none has ever had Fujitsu. But now I am interested in it as a personal laptop. What would be the Fujitsu equivalent of a Thinkpad Carbon X1 or a Dell XPS 13?

I have a U939X and I'm very happy with it. Very light ( https://www.notebookcheck.net/Fujitsu-Lifebook-U939X-Review-...

Where did you buy it? I get exclusively old/reused machines when searching for Fujitsu laptops.

Hardware-wise, these do actually seem very compelling! Like a breath of sane design after a decade of worse and worse design.

Re: Lenovo Selling Linux Laptops Directly in the US

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Post by luke2m »

gentleman11 wrote: post #10

Can’t trust them since the multiple spyware incidents. Fool me four times, shame on me Eg, > But it did more than that. It injected a self-signed root HTTPS certificate, which allowed them to hijack any and all encrypted traffic Different incident > This malware was hidden in the laptop's firmware, and abused the anti-theft feature in Windows 8 and 10. Whenever the laptop booted up, the executable would be extracted…

This is why you always install your own OS on a new computer.

Re: Lenovo Selling Linux Laptops Directly in the US

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Post by _trampeltier »

ianai wrote: post #127
_trampeltier wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a U939X and I'm very happy with it. Very light ( https://www.notebookcheck.net/Fujitsu-Lifebook-U939X-Review-...

Where did you buy it? I get exclusively old/reused machines when searching for Fujitsu laptops. Hardware-wise, these do actually seem very compelling! Like a breath of sane design after a decade of worse and worse design.

I'm from switzerland and bought it from Dicitec (digitec.ch). They are not the cheapest, but they run forever. No bloatware, also my moms notebook does still run nice after 10 years. I just swaped the HDD to an SSD some years ago.
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