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Re: Firefox 91

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Post by ectopod »

hhlbf wrote: post #65
yodelshady wrote: post #50

"We've added a new locale: SCO" That could be quite cool. So, Scots Gaelic, yes? Preserving a rich cultural history? From https://www.mozilla.org/sco/ "We mak the internet saufer, soonder, and faster fur guid" What the actual arsing F , Mozilla? edit: well, maybe, I must admit I didn't know of a canonical written form of modern Scots. It still looks an awful lot like sco.wikipedia.org, which is a grotesque parody wri…

You have to read it with the voice of Groundskeeper Willie.

Or Rab C. Nesbitt.

Re: Firefox 91

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Post by b112 »

DavideNL wrote: post #106
brink wrote: post #28

So much negativity. Just here to report that I am a happy Firefox user, no complaints here. Thank you Mozilla for making a browser that respects me.

Agreed, i’m also a happy FF user… The satisfied users don’t post comments as much i assume. Haters gonna hate, that’s just how it is.

Computing UIs initially changed for two reasons.

The first? Newer display technology and processing power, allowed for more complex menus, decision trees, and visual effects/feedback.

The second? Computing was new, and we were still learning how to build basic, usable UIs.

Yet ever UI change distracts, causes lag for users, and the above two points are long factored in.

No one needs a fork to change. No one needs their remote control's volume button to change.

Worse, no one need it to change from one day to the next, on a weekly or even yearly basis.

Many users would be beyond overjoyed, if their browser UI didn't change for the rest of their life.

The back button doesn't need to move, become something else, leap from the top to bottom of the window, look wildly different as a default, behave differently.

Worse, almost every UI change I've seen in Firefox in the last decade, has been tiny little tweaks without any real value for the end user, yet alienated people.

And worse, forced on people. Way to keep market share.

Firefox could be #1 again, simply by firing every UI person, hiring developers with that cash, and just optimise, merge in new web standards (without creating or taking part in them), and fix bugs.

Re: Firefox 91

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Post by skeeter2020 »

c618b9b695c4 wrote: post #66
shell0x wrote: post #33

My favorite thing about Firefox is the "Multi-Account Containers" extension. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account... It's really handy when having a private Microsoft account as well as an enterprise account. If I don't use this, my MS sessions get all mixed up.

Which is still missing a key feature - I want to be able to independently clear history/cookies on a per container basis. Give me a 'garbage' container for general browsing that is flushed by default, but bespoke Netflix/Github/etc containers that retain cookies forever.

I don't understand why you can't quickly set this up?

To independently clear on a container-basis, why not just delete the container? Stop treating your containers like pets and start treating them like livestock.

Re: Firefox 91

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Post by imbnwa »

shawnz wrote: post #103
imbnwa wrote: post #98

My only real gripe with FF nowadays is that the addressbar/search UI really really just needs to bite the bullet and mimic Chrome here where I can type a partial host name, , and enter my query for that site's internal search. Right now you have to type '@', then the partial host match, then the query. Minor, I know, but +2 (two fingers going in different directions) is less ergonomic to reach for than (pinky can rea…

In fairness they greatly improved this functionality in recent versions, but it's still not quite as smooth as Chrome

Yeah, Chrome's automatic registration of external search engines on first-use is also hella convenient. Firefox only reveals its weird "Add this search as a bookmark" ridiculousness. If Firefox is for the open web, making search easier so I can avoid default google addressbar searchs with "site:hostname" would seem right up that alley.

Re: Firefox 91

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Post by dandellion »

jamienicol wrote: post #105
FiveOhThree wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The new "chunky" layout and UI elements are not really an improvement, and a lot of users have been unhappy with this. Despite plentiful feedback about this during beta testing Mozilla have basically opted to force it through anyway. UI changes in general are something to expect, but if you're just going to disregard user feedback then you can't claim to respect users.

Equally a lot of users are happy with it. Should those users have been disregarded instead?

If that many users are happy why does it keep losing market share?

Personally every other release they remove features I like and make arbitrary UI changes. The only reason I'm still complaining and not using something else is because I don't like the alternatives either.

Re: Firefox 91

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Post by teddyfrozevelt »

yNeolh wrote: post #120
Renaud wrote: post #55

I'm always glad when I see Firefox churning along a new version. My overwhelming feeling is one of gratitude to the devs and people working on Firefox. It's the last bastion of Browser independence with super-high customizability. I also tend to use Edge over Chrome now. MS has done a pretty good job of making that a nice experience, BUT they are also pushing some less palatable ones. For instance, t used to be simpl…

What I don't like about Firefox is the fact that it will load all the tabs and windows you had opened before shuting down the computer and there is not a clean way to make it stop. When I finish my day, I like to shutdown the computer and go to sleep or whatever and every day when I open Firefox, all the windows will reopen and I need to close it and re-start... I just want to be able to disable this behaviour from t…

Does "Restore previous session", literally the first setting not work? Firefox will reopen my tabs only if my computer doesn't cleanly shut down or I don't close it before shutting my computer down.

Re: Firefox 91

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Post by forgotpwd16 »

asddubs wrote: post #104

>The address bar now provides Switch to Tab results also in Private Browsing windows. I have to say that I really don't like that "switch to tab" thing if typing in a URL to a tab that's already open. You get yanked out of context, can't hit back anymore, it makes the previously neighbouring tabs impossible to find, and it's harder to open two copies of the same website when you need to. I guess most people probably…

You can click a modifier key (ctrl, alt, shift) to open, rather switch, a URL.

Re: Firefox 91

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Post by hdjjhhvvhga »

b112 wrote: post #122
DavideNL wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed, i’m also a happy FF user… The satisfied users don’t post comments as much i assume. Haters gonna hate, that’s just how it is.

Computing UIs initially changed for two reasons. The first? Newer display technology and processing power, allowed for more complex menus, decision trees, and visual effects/feedback. The second? Computing was new, and we were still learning how to build basic, usable UIs. Yet ever UI change distracts, causes lag for users, and the above two points are long factored in. No one needs a fork to change. No one needs the…

I completely agree with your comments - but I am still grateful for Firefox, in spite of these user-hostile UI changes.

Re: Firefox 91

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Post by nicolasp »

yNeolh wrote: post #120
Renaud wrote: post #55

I'm always glad when I see Firefox churning along a new version. My overwhelming feeling is one of gratitude to the devs and people working on Firefox. It's the last bastion of Browser independence with super-high customizability. I also tend to use Edge over Chrome now. MS has done a pretty good job of making that a nice experience, BUT they are also pushing some less palatable ones. For instance, t used to be simpl…

What I don't like about Firefox is the fact that it will load all the tabs and windows you had opened before shuting down the computer and there is not a clean way to make it stop. When I finish my day, I like to shutdown the computer and go to sleep or whatever and every day when I open Firefox, all the windows will reopen and I need to close it and re-start... I just want to be able to disable this behaviour from t…

The "Restore previous session" checkbox is the first setting in the preferences for me (wording may differ a little as I'm not on the English version though). Doesn't that work for you?

Re: Firefox 91

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Post by toyg »

bityard wrote: post #67
emn13 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm happy you've found a decent browser for you. I'm a little curious about the motivation though - I've heard several people complain, but I don't really understand what's bothering them. I noticed tabs look a little different now, is that jarring? Or is there something I'm missing?

1. The fact that they look like buttons now, not tabs. 2. The active and inactive tab colors are so close that it's difficult to tell at a glance which is which. Especially in low-contrast situations (e.g. outside) or for those with vision disabilities. 3. Massive amounts of pointless padding. Which means you can't fit as many tabs in the window, and makes the browser a challenge to use for those with small screens.…

> The active and inactive tab colors are so close

Just use another theme.

> Massive amounts of pointless padding.

Yeah, that's a bit annoying, but it goes away if you use vertical tabs through an extension like Sidebery. Tbh I stopped noticing it after a couple of months.

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