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Re: Firefox 90

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Post by nly »

pieno wrote: post #102
metalliqaz wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The key here is "while Firefox is not running." They have a maintenance service now that can check for updates when the browser is closed. Personally, I wish they hadn't done that. First, because my browser is always open. But also because I don't need another service.

The maintenance service is not checking for updates. It is still Firefox itself that checks for updates, but instead of launching the updater.exe (which triggers the UAC dialog), Firefox will start the maintenance service and tell the service there is a new update. The service will stop Firefox, run the updater to install the new version of Firefox (which does not require a UAC because the service already has elevate…

How does the service authenticate Firefox?

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by bergheim »

I think Firefox news is what I comment most on here. I don't know why. Well I guess I do. Web browsers, javascript etc is front and center here - which somewhat means the digital world. All my friends use Chrome, and think I'm weird. I think _they_ are. They care about human rights, at least I think they do. But, having Google, an ad company, dictate how our window to the digital world looks like, is now _way worse_ than what Microsoft with IE6 ever did. They had their share, but nothing compared to this. At least Microsoft was just a software company.

If a class of people on a forum such as this with so many brilliant minds cannot even be bothered with the values of open source and how this pertains to democracy and human values I really don't see how any other part of our species could. "Chromium scrolls 5% better on my machine so who cares about Firefox". I see these comments all the time here. Even in this thread.

Firefox. Linux. Postgresql. Wikipedia. Xmms! The WORLD WIDE WEB! Imaging if Google invented hypertext and not CERN (funny how Google made their initial fortunes). AMP would be the least of your worries. Imagine if Amazon "invented" Wikipedia. All of these open source projects are just mindblowingly awesome. They help people. Me. You.

But who cares right? Certainly not the lot with money in the 80/90s that didn't understand how or why this would be important. Which is why all these amazing things happened. Now they do of course. So none of this anymore.

Which is why I think humanity is doomed to succumb to our newfound overlords. The Big Four. Five? Six? Seven? Who cares really. A handful.

I wish people, especially like what this place definitely represents, would stand up more (including me!). Teach people, politicians, your parents, your siblings, your kids. We understand tech and it's implications. We understand how big tech is now stifling everything. Good luck training a neural network that competes with 50 billion uploaded photos. Facebook, Amazon. Google. Microsoft.

But noone will - "it doesn't matter". But make no mistake. It does matter. And humanity is just sitting here. It's like we're heading for this High Class Great Filter.

Good thing I'll be dead before all this comes to full fruition.

(Sorry for the rant - hope it was still relevant and on point, and I really encourage discussion here!)

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by yboris »

The feature I'm most looking forward to is JPEG XL or .jxl (pronounced "jixel") - the new image format that will replace JPEG in 2022.

It's in Firefox nightly: https://caniuse.com/jpegxl but the sooner it's in the regular release, the sooner we can all start experimenting with it and using it.

https://jpegxl.info/

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by opheliate »

hypertele-Xii wrote: post #111
cassianoleal wrote: post #18

> Now, SmartBlock 2.0 in Firefox 90 eliminates this login problem. Initially, Facebook scripts are all blocked, just as before, ensuring your privacy is preserved. But when you click on the “Continue with Facebook” button to sign in, SmartBlock reacts by quickly unblocking the Facebook login script just in time for the sign-in to proceed smoothly. I wonder how it does that, and if it's open to exploitation by a malic…

Am I reading this right? Firefox now implements special logic just for Facebook?

If you're interested in special logic for specific websites, the WebKit Quirks.cpp [0] is well worth a look over.

0: https://github.com/WebKit/WebKit/blob/main/Source/WebCore/pa...

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by conradfr »

tempest_ wrote: post #49
metalliqaz wrote: post #7

Honestly I'm still not used to the new tab style that was introduced last time. 90 seems fine, but not much to get excited about from the user perspective.

I remember seeing a lot of complaining about the tabs in the last release thread but they dont seem to bother me at all. What is the issue with the new tabs?

What was wrong with the old ones?

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by rsp1984 »

Last time I used FF on my Macbook (about 2 or 3 years ago) it had a big issue with battery drain (IIRC it was because of high GPU load even when idle). Did they ever fix that?

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by Rebelgecko »

Hamuko wrote: post #11
metalliqaz wrote: post #7

Honestly I'm still not used to the new tab style that was introduced last time. 90 seems fine, but not much to get excited about from the user perspective.

I just made mine look like the old black tab bar again with userChrome.css.

I ended up just turning the tab bar off and using the Tree Tabs extension

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by wolverine876 »

pieno wrote: post #102
metalliqaz wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The key here is "while Firefox is not running." They have a maintenance service now that can check for updates when the browser is closed. Personally, I wish they hadn't done that. First, because my browser is always open. But also because I don't need another service.

The maintenance service is not checking for updates. It is still Firefox itself that checks for updates, but instead of launching the updater.exe (which triggers the UAC dialog), Firefox will start the maintenance service and tell the service there is a new update. The service will stop Firefox, run the updater to install the new version of Firefox (which does not require a UAC because the service already has elevate…

> The service will stop Firefox, run the updater to install the new version of Firefox (which does not require a UAC because the service already has elevated permissions), restart Firefox (updated version), and then stop itself.

The service asks before stopping Firefox? Also, what if I have private tabs open, does it retain those in the session when it restarts?

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by 411111111111111 »

bergheim wrote: post #122

I think Firefox news is what I comment most on here. I don't know why. Well I guess I do. Web browsers, javascript etc is front and center here - which somewhat means the digital world. All my friends use Chrome, and think I'm weird. I think _they_ are. They care about human rights, at least I think they do. But, having Google, an ad company, dictate how our window to the digital world looks like, is now _way worse_…

Just remember that Mozilla gets over 90% of its revenue from Google.

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by jules-jules »

joecool1029 wrote: post #118
jules-jules wrote: post #98

This might get lost but figure if someone knows about it it's here. Old Firefox allowed to double-click between two words and both would get highlighted. This has been removed in the newer versions. Does anybody know if it's possible to manually configure this?

There's a 3 settings under layout.word_select in about:config. They unfortunately don't do what you're asking, but there is an open bug for this: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1706990

Thanks for digging this up! At least I wasn't the only one who seems to have made extensive use of this functionality.
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