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Re: Sunsetting Secret Santa and Reddit Gifts

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post #99

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Replace www with old: https://old.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/nw2hs6/sunse...

Yes, but they will probably sunset it one day with an announcement like this one.

Older users all use old.reddit, which isn't the audience they want to see growth with, but acknowledge that it's a lot of tech/niche sub mods that use it - so I suspect they'll leave it for a very long time.

Re: Sunsetting Secret Santa and Reddit Gifts

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This was some comfort years ago, but these days, the vast majority of reddit users are mobile and new-reddit, whose UX's favor more meme/video mindless scrolling and throwaway comments. So while the old reddit experience is there in looks it feels more hollow nowadays. You go into a common interest subreddit and where 8 years ago you might have found interesting discussions now it's all memes, inspiration photos, etc…

I am convinced even had Reddit kept the old design, it would still suck now, because any site focused on a universal demographic will inevitably get most people coming in on mobile, and mobile inherently discourages longform text and encourages images. I find that for various special-interest, hobbyist forums, you need some kind of friction to prevent low-effort posters from taking over, and ensure more people are pa…

>mobile inherently discourages longform text and encourages images

As I read on a site on with no images or video and entirely in the form of thoughtful responses via mobile device.

Re: Sunsetting Secret Santa and Reddit Gifts

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For me reddit lost sight of why I used the site about 3 years ago, or maybe that's just when it got bad enough that I no longer felt unsubscribing from all defaults was a suitable solution. There's really nowhere left to hide from the rigorous enforcement of orthodox leftist thought. It's mostly a mutual admiration society where the boundaries of allowed disagreement and interesting discussion may touch here and ther…

I started engaging with Reddit about 3 years ago, right on the verge of things going downhill. So I’m not sure how much of this is normal over Reddit’s whole. But I did notice a shift in the political boards to a mean-spirited alt-left attitude. Whatever, politics are needlessly divisive right now. But as I got more into other subreddits, the same attitude seems to be there too. Make an objective statement even remot…

r/gaming has always been the meme/low-quality gaming board and it's not really expected to have any serious discussion there.

r/games is the one that's actually for somewhat coherent discussion. Not suggesting it's perfect, but it's probably the one you're looking for.

Re: Sunsetting Secret Santa and Reddit Gifts

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post #7

Years ago I participated in this. Someone sent me a beautiful programming book, but I failed to purchase and send a gift for my recipient because I was a stupid, selfish kid. I still feel horrible about it to this day.

That alone is why people sign up for Secret Santa rematching. Your gift giver probably didn't go without because someone else was kind and stepped in. Even so, given that you feel horrible about skipping out on that obligation but can't apologise to the person you wronged, you should take that energy forward in your life and use it as a reason to do good things for others also anonymously - maybe someday, as a result…

I think they're highlighting the fact that the average age of Redditors has dropped very significantly, and the upcoming Reddit gift exchange would have been a disaster of no-gifts.

Re: Sunsetting Secret Santa and Reddit Gifts

#125
post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but they will probably sunset it one day with an announcement like this one.

Older users all use old.reddit, which isn't the audience they want to see growth with, but acknowledge that it's a lot of tech/niche sub mods that use it - so I suspect they'll leave it for a very long time.

Reddit has access to the stats - and I’m sure they know just exactly how much of the content is posted from old.reddit - and they know if they cut it off they lose that content.

Re: Sunsetting Secret Santa and Reddit Gifts

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I can't help but notice that your link to New Secret Santa is under the "old" subdomain.

Any real redditor still uses old.reddit.com, the day they get rid of that, I'm guessing the same thing that happened to digg will happen.

The only reason I have a reddit account is so I can disable all the junk in preferances and not have to worry about the subdomain. My reddit basically looks like HN. Old is good, but not as good as what you can get with customization for now.

Re: Sunsetting Secret Santa and Reddit Gifts

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I get it.

On a much smaller scale, I was in a similar position once.

Ran a very active online community. Each year we had a big (well, for us) in-person meetup. Everybody loved it, looked forward to it, etc.

In retrospect I'm not sure it was the best use of our extremely limited people-hours.

On the plus side, the gathering/convention was great the 0.1% of our active users that made the trek each year and I believe there was a harder-to-measure positive "halo effect" from it that benefitted the community in general.

On the downside, the "staff" for this site was basically "me working part time, plus community volunteers." The site's infrastructure needed major work and I lacked time to properly market the site, etc.

TL;DR --

Given our limited resources, a LOT of necessary work went undone, in favor of this yearly event that directly benefitted only a tiny fraction of our users. I suspect Reddit just came to the same conclusion.

Re: Sunsetting Secret Santa and Reddit Gifts

#128

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For me reddit lost sight of why I used the site about 3 years ago, or maybe that's just when it got bad enough that I no longer felt unsubscribing from all defaults was a suitable solution. There's really nowhere left to hide from the rigorous enforcement of orthodox leftist thought. It's mostly a mutual admiration society where the boundaries of allowed disagreement and interesting discussion may touch here and ther…

I started engaging with Reddit about 3 years ago, right on the verge of things going downhill. So I’m not sure how much of this is normal over Reddit’s whole. But I did notice a shift in the political boards to a mean-spirited alt-left attitude. Whatever, politics are needlessly divisive right now. But as I got more into other subreddits, the same attitude seems to be there too. Make an objective statement even remot…

I think this is a case of the “monkey ladder” type situation where people just bandwagon on and don’t know why. They just see the behavior, don’t know the cause, and emulate behavior.

I think this happens in fake internet point situations because people are more apt to get upvotes and avoid downvotes. Since thoughtful content is hard, dog piling is easy. I can get more votes by grammar nazi-equivalent for wrongthink.

Re: Sunsetting Secret Santa and Reddit Gifts

#129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am convinced even had Reddit kept the old design, it would still suck now, because any site focused on a universal demographic will inevitably get most people coming in on mobile, and mobile inherently discourages longform text and encourages images. I find that for various special-interest, hobbyist forums, you need some kind of friction to prevent low-effort posters from taking over, and ensure more people are pa…

>mobile inherently discourages longform text and encourages images As I read on a site on with no images or video and entirely in the form of thoughtful responses via mobile device.

That is not designed for mobile and does not have a mobile app.

Re: Sunsetting Secret Santa and Reddit Gifts

#130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am convinced even had Reddit kept the old design, it would still suck now, because any site focused on a universal demographic will inevitably get most people coming in on mobile, and mobile inherently discourages longform text and encourages images. I find that for various special-interest, hobbyist forums, you need some kind of friction to prevent low-effort posters from taking over, and ensure more people are pa…

>mobile inherently discourages longform text and encourages images As I read on a site on with no images or video and entirely in the form of thoughtful responses via mobile device.

HN, as its name indicates, do not aim at a universal demographic. The demographic it does cater to is also very likely to use a keyboard heavily during the day, and so retains some good habits of longform discourse even when contributing via mobile.
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