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Re: Online Antipiracy firm sending copyright notices for downloading Ubuntu ISO

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Post by oscargrouch »

mrandish wrote: post #112
oscargrouch wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's why Biden while being a relief to north-americans(and i completely agree) its worse for the rest of the world at least from the perspective of enforcing north-american policies and legislation worldwide (read big-co, intelligence agencies). Given Trump focus on the internal affairs of the US, while the political climate was toxic at home, at least it let all others breath a little. Now with Biden it will star…

I agree completely. Strangely, the term "two party system" might lead one to assume there's a meaningful difference in real-world policy outcomes. Sadly, this is all too rare and, in practice, the differences are mostly in the claimed intentions and not the delivered results. As an American, please accept my apology for all uninvited interference in the economic and political affairs of other nations.

> As an American, please accept my apology for all uninvited interference in the economic and political affairs of other nations.

No need for apologies. This is all super complex, gigantic, out of our hands mess that is hard to make it advance even a little. I know how it feels.

But its good to know that you care, and that's the reason why we should never fall for cheap generalizations.

Re: Online Antipiracy firm sending copyright notices for downloading Ubuntu ISO

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Post by gabereiser »

rubyist5eva wrote: post #91
gabereiser wrote: post #6

This is why DMCA is broken. Too easy for false claims. It’s plagued the music industry, YouTube, and now free software.

This isn't a DMCA notice.

Hrm, it says so right on the notice... did you RTFA?

Re: Online Antipiracy firm sending copyright notices for downloading Ubuntu ISO

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Post by matheusmoreira »

Teknoman117 wrote: post #108
matheusmoreira wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah. And if you don't at least look like you're cooperating, the USA will put you in a literal naughty list of bad countries and develop "action plans" for dealing with it. https://ustr.gov/sites/default/files/2019_Special_301_Report... You can't just isolate yourself from them either without massive economic consequences. Even if you suffered through those consequences, they'll probably just force you to trade anyw…

I couldn't believe Canada was on this list and just had to take a look, considering they're one of our closest allies. The entire section is a somber example of how screwed up our medical system is. The section on Switzerland is just about how annoyed the government is at their privacy protections.

Basically the USA won't rest until the entire world becomes america. God forbid US corporations actually adapt to the countries they want to sell their products in. Better to leverage the US government's power in order to pressure other countries into adopting american laws.

For example, search the document for "right holder". It's full of this. Rights holders are concerned about this, rights holders are concerned about that... Why does some corporation's "concerns" matter at all? It's mind-boggling. This entire document is just an endless list of complaints from US corporations about countries that aren't playing by their rules. They want the US government to "fix" the other countries so they can turn a profit there.

Re: Online Antipiracy firm sending copyright notices for downloading Ubuntu ISO

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Post by meowface »

hedora wrote: post #120
kevincox wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I downloaded the torrent from KAT and confirmed that the filename and hash match the Ubuntu torrent. It appears that some metadata on that site is incorrect. 93bdab204067321ff131f560879db46bee3b994bf24836bb78538640f689e58f /mnt/downloads/ubuntu-20.04.2.0-desktop-amd64.iso

Interesting. If someone were to intentionally publish indexes that associate pirate titles with non-pirate SHAs, I imagine they’d be able to cause a lot of trouble for the DMCA takedown industry.

Who knows, maybe that's exactly what happened here. Could be a vigilante trolling the copyright trolls. (Not all copyright firms are necessarily trolls. The ones that recklessly automate things so heavily that they'd make this mistake probably are, though.)

Re: Online Antipiracy firm sending copyright notices for downloading Ubuntu ISO

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Post by willyt »

BelenusMordred wrote: post #2

Things like this show there really should be a significant cost to wasting the courts time and that it simply doesn't exist right now.

In Britain there’s the concept of a ‘vexatious litigant’ a person or other entity who makes frivolous legal actions for purposes other than seeking redress for a wrong that has been done to them. You can be put on a register which makes it much harder to bring legal actions in future. There is a broad civil law legal principle that damages paid to you should put you back to where you started before the bad thing happened. So you can’t take out a legal action to get revenge on someone or to frighten them. This is also why we don’t have punitive damages here.

Re: Online Antipiracy firm sending copyright notices for downloading Ubuntu ISO

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Post by xtat »

Mindwipe wrote: post #45
NmAmDa wrote: post #14

Is there a chance that someone take them to the court for this false claim?

No, you have to demonstrate that it is actually in bad faith rather than just a cock up, and that's not going to happen (especially given it very likely is just a cock up).

As I understand it bad faith is one of their core values.

Re: Online Antipiracy firm sending copyright notices for downloading Ubuntu ISO

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Post by aidenn0 »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #123
Teknoman117 wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I couldn't believe Canada was on this list and just had to take a look, considering they're one of our closest allies. The entire section is a somber example of how screwed up our medical system is. The section on Switzerland is just about how annoyed the government is at their privacy protections.

Basically the USA won't rest until the entire world becomes america. God forbid US corporations actually adapt to the countries they want to sell their products in. Better to leverage the US government's power in order to pressure other countries into adopting american laws. For example, search the document for "right holder". It's full of this. Rights holders are concerned about this, rights holders are concerned ab…

It's even worse than that. They get other countries to make harsher laws than the US has, then when they try to pass similar laws in the US, they argue that it's just normalizing our laws with what other countries are doing...

Re: Online Antipiracy firm sending copyright notices for downloading Ubuntu ISO

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Post by richardhod »

aidenn0 wrote: post #128
matheusmoreira wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Basically the USA won't rest until the entire world becomes america. God forbid US corporations actually adapt to the countries they want to sell their products in. Better to leverage the US government's power in order to pressure other countries into adopting american laws. For example, search the document for "right holder". It's full of this. Rights holders are concerned about this, rights holders are concerned ab…

It's even worse than that. They get other countries to make harsher laws than the US has, then when they try to pass similar laws in the US, they argue that it's just normalizing our laws with what other countries are doing...

I'm interested in links to any examples if you have some because this is a development I haven't heard of, and I am dartley curious

Re: Online Antipiracy firm sending copyright notices for downloading Ubuntu ISO

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Post by matheusmoreira »

richardhod wrote: post #129
aidenn0 wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's even worse than that. They get other countries to make harsher laws than the US has, then when they try to pass similar laws in the US, they argue that it's just normalizing our laws with what other countries are doing...

I'm interested in links to any examples if you have some because this is a development I haven't heard of, and I am dartley curious

I'm not sure if this is what aidenn0 was talking about but I think Australia can be considered an example. The Five Eyes seem to be using Australia as some kind of legal testing ground. Not too long ago Australia introduced incredible laws such as legal requirements for companies to serve as state-sponsored malware vectors. Australian companies are now required to compromise the security of their own customers if so ordered by law enforcement. Presumably the other Five Eyes are watching to see how that plays out before attempting similar shenanigans. If it works, I have no doubt they'll use Australia as a shining example to justify implementing the same changes elsewhere.

My own country is an example. The government really likes to copy whatever it is developed countries are doing. Watching how other countries regulate stuff is a great way to predict what I might have to deal with in the future. We created our own GDPR after Europe did it. Telecommunications companies tried to lobby against net neutrality here citing the US as an "industry standard" example.

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