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Why not give customers the choice to run other app stores? Imagine if all the software on your laptop must be downloaded from the windows store..
Because my grandma is clueless and I give her an iPhone so she doesn’t install malware like she managed to on her Android phone
Tim Cook's line of argument seemed a bit weird to me. On one hand he's saying that he doesn't know if Apple's customers would be able to distinguish between Apple's good and holy curated store and Epic's filthy shitheap of porn and blackjack, but he's also saying that Apple's customers definitely want Apple's App Store as-is. > Lawyer says, “if people really value Apple’s curation and Apple’s App Store, even if there…
Also, the suggestion that customers want it to stay like it is is a flat out lie given his preceding statement where he admits they've never offered the choice, so can't possibly know.
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Because my grandma is clueless and I give her an iPhone so she doesn’t install malware like she managed to on her Android phone
It's weird that a clueless person was able to download and install a malware apk when by default Android forces you to go to your settings and allow apps to install other apps (the behaviour has changed over the years, but you always need to do something). Not to mention that Google Play Protect scans your apps and warns you if it finds something sketchy. In any case and as much as I like my own clueless grandma, I d…
It's really not that hard anymore. Google Play Protect then yells at you about the app you just installed (but maybe that was because I was installing rooting apps). The best solution to someone installing garbage apps would be a system with an app whitelist managed by a trusted person off the phone. And no browser or incoming phone calls.
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Charging people to make use of their IP is fair IMO. Its similar to paying taxes, even if you don't use the services the taxes are for. The user benefits from Apple maintaining their OS, so has to pay. A citizen paying taxes benefits from all the services the country offers, so he pays taxes.
The problem with this view is it assumes developers need the iPhone more than the iPhone needs developers, which is absolutely not the case. It’s symbiotic certainly—for better or worse far more money is spent on iOS than Android—but without apps the iPhone would be basically useless. In my opinion, Apple needs to acknowledge that, rather than acting like developers owe them the shirt off their backs.
An IPhone is pretty useful right out of the box. Not to mention that most of the apps that people actually use could be web pages. And if they really wanted to, apple could always dip into their cash reserves and start making more of their own apps.
Other news on this has quotes from Tim Cook saying that they'd have to find a way to track purchases on IOS and bill developers so that Apple still gets their cut when using other payment processors. For me, this is way over the line. If they want to charge developers to be on their store, fine. I don't have a problem with that. And charging for using them as a payment processor makes sense. Charging for using Apple…
How would a developer build an iOS app without using any system calls or OS frameworks? Xcode?
“Infrastructure” is a blurry concept in such a deeply integrated system.
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This will not happen as long as Apple's cut percentage is lower than the percentage of users that will give up or not download the app when asked for their credit card in-app. Obviously any reasonable Apple's cut will satisfy this requirement.
4 users or 4 million the review process needs to be done and done well otherwise it’s just as risky as installing random crap people download from the internet. So the issue is Apples ‘cut’ needs to cover all those apps with few buyers. It’s a complex problem because applications like BonziBuddy mean you can’t actually trust users to detect issues. That’s not to say Apple ensures quality, just that minimum standards…
Apple's lawyers screwed up, big time. It is unimaginable that a party to a lawsuit would tell the judge, "You and I have a different view." OMG. Better go in the hall right there and then, Timmy, because the person holding the "different view" is deciding your case. There are dozens of other ways to get your point across without openly disagreeing with the judge. Apple is toast.
Other news on this has quotes from Tim Cook saying that they'd have to find a way to track purchases on IOS and bill developers so that Apple still gets their cut when using other payment processors. For me, this is way over the line. If they want to charge developers to be on their store, fine. I don't have a problem with that. And charging for using them as a payment processor makes sense. Charging for using Apple…
Tim Cook's line of argument seemed a bit weird to me. On one hand he's saying that he doesn't know if Apple's customers would be able to distinguish between Apple's good and holy curated store and Epic's filthy shitheap of porn and blackjack, but he's also saying that Apple's customers definitely want Apple's App Store as-is. > Lawyer says, “if people really value Apple’s curation and Apple’s App Store, even if there…
I hope multiple App Stores don’t become a thing on iOS. The reason I like iPhone is that I am assured that apps I download from App Store are not shit and curated by Apple. Apple has vested interest to keep apps made available to be clean and not going to compromise iPhone. Android play store, in comparison, is full of crap and free for all, basically buyer (or downloader) beware. Phone is used by too broad of user g…
I hope Apple will also force only 1 browser, 1 text editor, 1 video player, 1 search engine, 1 bank/payment system. I hate PayPal so everyone should use Apple Pay because I want so, please Apple force them all to use what I like! /sarcasm
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A credit card with standard transaction fees and interest is very different than taking 30% of every transaction on the platform while also having the power to forbid venders on the platform from increasing their prices to make up the difference.
Absolutely agree, but it's not that much different than expecting a tax on every Venmo/PayPal/Robinhood transaction on the store (if I'm reading this correctly, this is a thing Cook just implied they might do in sworn testimony today)
A tax for existence on a platform is just rent seeking and increases prices for everyone but Apple. That's not desirable and likely illegal.
The worst case scenario is Spotify-cation of services where Apple used the App Store to identify popular services, counters with their own, and then charges extortionate fees such that they cannot compete with Apple's native services. I would be concerned if we start seeing an Apple Brokerage.
Apple Pay doesn't have a direct competitor in Venmo since Venmo is about payment processing between people who don't normally deal with credit card processing, and cross platform functionality is the biggest value prop. Apple Pay isnt a threat unless it works on all platforms equally.