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Re: Let’s Talk About Hot Tub Streams

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Post by danso »

oliwarner wrote: post #118
Traster wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don't want to be a porn site. The problem they have is that the porn content drives away advertisers and non-porn related contant. So they have to steer away from porn, but wherever they draw the line there are going to be people testing the line, and there's an audience for it. So the compromise they've clearly come up with is they don't allow porn, but if you happen to be sexy wearing practically nothing, that…

No, they don't want to admit to being a porn site. Tying themselves in knots with silly rules like this means they're just a gateway for people to promote their OnlyFans pages. If they want to be a game streaming site, why allow player video at all? Pare it back to what it was actually for.

They aren’t just a game streaming site. “Just Chatting” is a huge category, as is live music

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Post by ludamad »

oliwarner wrote: post #118
Traster wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don't want to be a porn site. The problem they have is that the porn content drives away advertisers and non-porn related contant. So they have to steer away from porn, but wherever they draw the line there are going to be people testing the line, and there's an audience for it. So the compromise they've clearly come up with is they don't allow porn, but if you happen to be sexy wearing practically nothing, that…

No, they don't want to admit to being a porn site. Tying themselves in knots with silly rules like this means they're just a gateway for people to promote their OnlyFans pages. If they want to be a game streaming site, why allow player video at all? Pare it back to what it was actually for.

They don't want to be whatever the market calls a porn site. Advertising a porn site is a lesser taboo

I love the weird twitch content BTW, so I wouldn't want to pare down for the sake of risque entertainers

Re: Let’s Talk About Hot Tub Streams

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

meheleventyone wrote: post #93
nickysielicki wrote: post #43

These streams are closer to pornography than most people realize. There's a reason that these streams get so much attention: 14 year old young men love watching video games, so they go to sites where they can watch video games. If you start serving softcore pornography on the same website, well gee wiz, who could have guessed that it would be pretty lucrative? You don't have to be a prude to have a problem with this.…

Given the sheer amounts of money being flung at streamers of all stripes by their audience directly I doubt the majority of the audience is 14!

That doesn't follow; maybe the oldest 10% of people are 90% of donations.

Re: Let’s Talk About Hot Tub Streams

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Post by bluefirebrand »

viraptor wrote: post #111
bluefirebrand wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I mean, most women streaming on twitch are using their looks and body for viewership. It’s the oldest play in the book This is the real sticking point. If they came down hard against titty streamers they would be destroying a large portion of their own viewer base. Not to mention how bad it would look from a "Twitch is being sexist" viewpoint. Top male streamers would continue to do extremely well, male streamers w…

Also any policy like that would hit women who are into positive body expression, without trying to use it as a popularity tool. I.e. they'd have to figure out how to tell apart those who work on being suggestive for money and that who just enjoy being suggestive in life. Kind of like the repeating issue for https://mobile.twitter.com/RealSexyCyborg who as far as I can tell is strongly in the second category. But that…

> they'd have to figure out how to tell apart those who work on being suggestive for money and that who just enjoy being suggestive in life

I don't think they'd bother trying to tell them apart. The issue Twitch wants to police here isn't the willingness or coercion, it's the suggestiveness behaviour entirely.

Re: Let’s Talk About Hot Tub Streams

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Post by SubiculumCode »

oliwarner wrote: post #118
Traster wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don't want to be a porn site. The problem they have is that the porn content drives away advertisers and non-porn related contant. So they have to steer away from porn, but wherever they draw the line there are going to be people testing the line, and there's an audience for it. So the compromise they've clearly come up with is they don't allow porn, but if you happen to be sexy wearing practically nothing, that…

No, they don't want to admit to being a porn site. Tying themselves in knots with silly rules like this means they're just a gateway for people to promote their OnlyFans pages. If they want to be a game streaming site, why allow player video at all? Pare it back to what it was actually for.

I'd say that is more true of tiktok et al than twitch.

Re: Let’s Talk About Hot Tub Streams

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Post by tibbydudeza »

I really don't get it.

What is the joy of watching a girl in a bathing costume sitting on a inflatable horse in a kiddy pool showing off her behind every now and again ???.

Most of the chat are about as dumb as bricks so you can't be there for the conversation.

Re: Let’s Talk About Hot Tub Streams

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Post by soared »

thinkingemote wrote: post #85

The main thing is these are not "hot tubs" they are indoors, in a normal room, an apartment, in a kiddies play pool, with kiddies inflatable equipment. The water is, additionally, cold and a few inches deep. No-one in the world does this type of activity privately or in public. It's so obviously soft core pornography and way away from the sensible "appropriate behaviour and clothing rules" that it's absurd. Now there…

Twitch is certainly aware of your argument because it’s true. Twitch doesn’t think there are actually hot tubs in peoples living rooms.

They know it’s basically soft core porn. They’re definitely not going to call it that. But they’ll separate it out from the rest of their content and let users and advertisers opt out of it.

Re: Let’s Talk About Hot Tub Streams

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Post by tibbydudeza »

jedberg wrote: post #36

I never used Twitch before the pandemic -- watching people play games was never really my thing. But then I discovered the entire second use of Twitch, streaming music. Since March 2020, it's been possible to find someone streaming music at pretty much any time of day. One day I was watching around 2am Pacific time, and the stream ended. I was looking for another one when I saw someone in the music category with 13,0…

Men that are lonely and crave some sort of connection to the opposite sex.

Re: Let’s Talk About Hot Tub Streams

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Post by serf »

tibbydudeza wrote: post #126

I really don't get it. What is the joy of watching a girl in a bathing costume sitting on a inflatable horse in a kiddy pool showing off her behind every now and again ???. Most of the chat are about as dumb as bricks so you can't be there for the conversation.

>What is the joy of watching a girl in a bathing costume sitting on a inflatable horse in a kiddy pool showing off her behind every now and again ???.

sex sells.

people like looking at other people half-nude and becoming aroused; it's about as simple a marketing tactic that exists.

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