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YouTube ads in Safari: you see them now, will you see them in the future?

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Re: YouTube ads in Safari: you see them now, will you see them in the future?

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Post by mullingitover »

topicseed wrote: post #110
mullingitover wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you're really anti ads, don't take the content for free, find another piece of content that answers your ad-free philosophy. Google is in the process of breaking this deal themselves - they're now adding ads to videos which users did not opt to monetize, and they're keeping 100% of the revenue. Taking the content for free, if you will.

They, at least, offer a free hosting service. Not ideal to monetize on the back of the creator's work, but it's not comparable with friendly piracy rationalised through semantics behind what User Agent means (as per parent comment).

Not free anymore - they're now adware that's monetizing your viewers after unilaterally changing terms and cutting you out of the deal. It arguably puts them on equal footing with people who unilaterally change the terms of the site usage deal and block their ads.

Remember, forcing you to watch ads means it's not free - it's you trading irreplaceable moments of your life for something. Unless your time is worth absolutely nothing, ads are extremely expensive to you.

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Post by crazypython »

google234123 wrote: post #82

If you don't want ads get Youtube Premium.

While I use adblockers, I agree with this sentiment.

It's easy to forget that ads pay for YouTube content, they pay for web content. Google gets an overwhelming cut, sadly. Ads fund the creators that make the content. This revenue is not much and is often barely enough to survive.

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Post by spartanatreyu »

kenniskrag wrote: post #103
defaultname wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If we go down that road, however, sites can make ads completely indistinguishable from desired content. Same domain, same stream, no easily marked container. All of the imperative adblocking tech in the world, short of queuing everything through a neural engine post render, can block what is possible. So there has always been a detente between adblockers and publishers, presuming the former hit a small enough set of…

I think by law, ads have to be declared as such for users.

That works in theory but fails in practice. Most ads will just have an "Opinion" tag stapled on them.

Re: YouTube ads in Safari: you see them now, will you see them in the future?

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Post by VRay »

babypuncher wrote: post #114
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #108

Removing whatever Ublock Origin needed to exist in Safari is one of the dumbest moves Apple has made. To get most of the battery advantages of Macs you're forced to use Safari. But when it comes down to having to see YouTube ads I'm willing to make the tradeoff and switch to Chrome.

Frankly I just hate the idea of YouTube creators getting paid for their work. /s

I'd pay half a cent per video or whatever it works out to be, but I'm not going to pay by letting Google or any other corporations track my every move and action

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Post by stemlord »

ec109685 wrote: post #78

At some point, YouTube is just going to stich these into the main video.

This already exists on yt in the form of sponsored content in pro youtubers' videos, I use an extension called SponsorBlock that uses crowdsourced reporting to find and skip these portions... this crowdsourced approach will only work well for popular videos but unpopular vids are less often monetizable and thus not ad-ridden anyway

Re: YouTube ads in Safari: you see them now, will you see them in the future?

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Post by spartanatreyu »

babypuncher wrote: post #114
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #108

Removing whatever Ublock Origin needed to exist in Safari is one of the dumbest moves Apple has made. To get most of the battery advantages of Macs you're forced to use Safari. But when it comes down to having to see YouTube ads I'm willing to make the tradeoff and switch to Chrome.

Frankly I just hate the idea of YouTube creators getting paid for their work. /s

Youtube shows ads on videos for a section of creators without paying them and also puts ads on creator's videos that do not want ads on them.

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Post by dilap »

viktorcode wrote: post #44

There's some misconceptions being put forth in the article which I, as a developer of a Safari ad blocker, would like to address. Content blockers are limited by design to ensure privacy and speed, but they may work together with other kinds of Safari extension. So, when AdGuard guys say that the only debugging tool you can use is Console, know that this isn’t true. There’s SFSafariExtensionHandler API which you can…

> but it isn’t a priority.

I would kill for this.

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Post by cm2187 »

twobitshifter wrote: post #2

The battle between ad platforms and users is going to be never ending. For YouTube, the _right_ thing to do is to pay for the premium option which removes ads. Otherwise as difficult as it is to say, you are getting something for nothing and people do make a living from YouTube videos. Ok, maybe you can contribute to a patreon outside of YouTube, but you’re not going to do that for everyone and those videos are not s…

It also enables tracking of what I watch by the company I trust the least in the world with tracking me.
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