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Millions of the Pentagon’s dormant IP addresses sprang to life on January 20

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Re: Millions of the Pentagon’s dormant IP addresses sprang to life on January 20

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I suspect there are a decent number of network engineers who think it's funny to use DoD IPs for their internal network, especially given what their logging system will probably tell them by default. If you drive around with a WiFi stumbler running, you'll run into networks with names like "UTAH DATA CENTER" and "SIPRnet", etc for the same reason.

I always hated seeing “FBI Surveillance Van” Made me wanna climb out of my FBI Surveillance Van and have a word with them.

Ha! “Unmarked white van” is the WiFi name at my local dog daycare. I got a good laugh.

Re: Millions of the Pentagon’s dormant IP addresses sprang to life on January 20

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Eh, I wouldn't be surprised if an org like the Pentagon is secretive about things that aren't really necessary to be secrets. It's just kinda in their nature to be that way (kinda like Apple's default-secrecy about products and features). (Also, sorry to be That Guy, but this one always gets to me: in the sense you've used it, it's "faze", not "phase".)

I used to work in intelligence. "Secrecy creep" has long been a serious problem inside DoD. How information get classified has largely been left up to low level federal bureaucrats, people my father used to angrily refer to as "big haired women from Mississippi". Basically, they are low level federal office drones, with minimal knowledge about the actual content of classified programs, who re left to determine how th…

Don't answer this if it isn't legal to answer, but do you have any examples you can share? I can entirely picture the process, and completely believe that it happens, but I don't have a mental image of what the end result looks like.

Re: Millions of the Pentagon’s dormant IP addresses sprang to life on January 20

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Not just Chinese companies. I know of one FAANG company that used internal IP addresses in the 11.0.0.0/8 space (in addition to, not instead of, RFC 1918 space).

Every time I've seen this it's because of inefficient and wasteful use of 10/8 internally. Like, not every tiny site or thing needs a /24. Once the wasteful use becomes entrenched as a practice, it would be very labor intensive and time-consuming to go on a renumbering plan. As compared to the effort to just use 11/8. And then ultimately because of refusal to get over the technical hurdle of using IPv6 for internal m…

But have you seen inside of FAANG?

Re: Millions of the Pentagon’s dormant IP addresses sprang to life on January 20

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I want to reply to the following dead comment [1] > Aah, the wapo, that's Bezos, isn't it? It actually doesn't seem that unreasonable to me that a company as large as Amazon sees vast, unused resources held by the government. They publish an article as a sort of "wink wink, nudge nudge" to see if they can get it put up for auction. In fact, I'd be shocked if someone at Amazon or another company hasn't tried to ask th…

I think the downvotes come from entertaining the idea that, because WAPO writes about something, that it’s ultimately in order to further the interests of AWS/Amazon/Bezos. While I think the rest of your comment is something worth discussing, the WAPO thing is not really supported by evidence, so it makes you seem like you're entertaining the conspiracy theory that writers at WAPO try to help AMZN. Quoting dead comments isn't a recipe for success.

Re: Millions of the Pentagon’s dormant IP addresses sprang to life on January 20

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"several Chinese companies use network numbering systems that resemble the U.S. military’s IP addresses in their internal systems" I don't think I've heard of this before. What does it mean? Does China operate a disconnected BGP network? Or do they have some modified protocol, or what?

Not just Chinese companies. I know of one FAANG company that used internal IP addresses in the 11.0.0.0/8 space (in addition to, not instead of, RFC 1918 space).

Well I would hope it’s not Apple since they already own all of 17.0.0.0... one of only 7 private companies that own their own /8, as far as I know.

Re: Millions of the Pentagon’s dormant IP addresses sprang to life on January 20

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I think the key question isn't which political agenda they have, but whether they report facts or opinions. In that regard, WaPo is pretty good but you can still do better: https://www.adfontesmedia.com/static-mbc/

That isn't really how it works anymore. It's possible (and standard) to push any political agenda without ever stating an opinion directly. It's all about which specific facts you choose to report and which you choose to ignore. It's very easy to select and report only facts that make group A look good, or only facts that make them look bad. In that way, 2 news sources can give people the opposite opinion without any…

And furthermore, public sentiment (and therefore elections) are decided by what the main sources of media determine is the most important news.

Example: Cops have shot a thousand people a year for several years in a row (maybe a decade). About 300 of those each year have been black, which is a disproportionate amount by some measures.

However, it is nowhere near the biggest problem in our country even for black people. But because the media has chosen to report on that problem near constantly since Colin Kaepernick took a knee, it has dominated the public consciousness and therefore influences thousands of people to loot, burn, protest, riot and thousands more to develop opinions and attitudes that create more and more division in our country.

Most of what they report is factual but is it as important as the lofty position they are giving it in the news? Is it helping?

Re: Millions of the Pentagon’s dormant IP addresses sprang to life on January 20

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I got -4 in downvotes. (-2 before my edit.) I don't know what's going on. I understand when I call out Apple or Google for bad behavior that I can attract downvotes. Sometimes my posts are snarky, and I understand in that case too. But I can point to instances where posts I made days ago were all downvoted in unison. Or completely informational threads where every single one of my comments gets a downvote or two. Jus…

You already got feedback in hobs’s comment. They wrote: “I didnt downvote, but random speculation with no evidence doesn't get upvotes on hacker news; a discussion of things you find interesting that others find baseless with get you downvotes immediately.”

Speculation is part of the conversation.
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