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Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki Gets 'Freedom Expression' Award Sponsored by YouTube

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post #12

Here[1] is the video. At the time of me writing this comment, the ratio is 53 likes to 15,486 dislikes. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDcvPf78g1k

Don't worry, Youtube is set to remove the dislike buttons.

just report for inappropriate content instead

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki Gets 'Freedom Expression' Award Sponsored by YouTube

#122
post #81

Let this be a lesson to all: intelligence does not in any way correlate with self awareness. It's likely that 'smart' people are just as likely to be unaware of their own follies or inabilities, I would argue, maybe more so as a lot of smart people tend to be 'inwardly focused' and less concerned about their direct environment. This kind of thing happens all the time among Exec. level, but normally we'd expect it fro…

"Smart" and "educated" people are the easiest to fool[0]. [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbwWL5ezA4g

“Why you fool, it's the educated reader who CAN be gulled. All our difficulty comes with the others. When did you meet a workman who believes the papers? He takes it for granted that they're all propaganda and skips the leading articles. He buys his paper for the football results and the little paragraphs about girls falling out of windows and corpses found in Mayfair flats. He is our problem. We have to recondition him. But the educated public, the people who read the high-brow weeklies, don't need reconditioning. They're all right already. They'll believe anything.”

― C.S. Lewis, That Hideous Strength

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki Gets 'Freedom Expression' Award Sponsored by YouTube

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Let this be a lesson to all: intelligence does not in any way correlate with self awareness. It's likely that 'smart' people are just as likely to be unaware of their own follies or inabilities, I would argue, maybe more so as a lot of smart people tend to be 'inwardly focused' and less concerned about their direct environment. This kind of thing happens all the time among Exec. level, but normally we'd expect it fro…

> but normally we'd expect it from Ford CEO, not Google types. Why? How do you see a distinction there?

Not parent but would assume that "google types" are more likely engineers first, with the assumption that those types are likely likely to have spatial / problem solvin awareness.

Contrast Vs traditional traditional CEOs more likely to be hired on the basis of their network and charistma vs actual engineering chops?

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki Gets 'Freedom Expression' Award Sponsored by YouTube

#124
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry, but I simply can't believe that "no one is particularly happy with YouTube" while so many people still use it, including the vast majority of the people who are supposedly "not particularly happy" with it. When people ask, "Why hasn't someone disrupted YouTube?" I think the more boring answer that keeps getting overlooked is that it still meets the expectations of enough users, and the dissatisfied constit…

YouTube's brand and network effects are a huge moat, in a market that is massively expensive to build a competitor in. There are only a handful of companies in the world with the available tech talent and capital to create a serious competitor and they apparently aren't interested in trying to attack that moat at this time. YouTube can absolutely be widely disliked and keep chugging along for the foreseeable future.…

From the user's perspective, these are the same benefits the parent poster was referring to however. Giving people the most value for their money is indeed a huge moat for competition.

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki Gets 'Freedom Expression' Award Sponsored by YouTube

#125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry, but I simply can't believe that "no one is particularly happy with YouTube" while so many people still use it, including the vast majority of the people who are supposedly "not particularly happy" with it. When people ask, "Why hasn't someone disrupted YouTube?" I think the more boring answer that keeps getting overlooked is that it still meets the expectations of enough users, and the dissatisfied constit…

More troll posts... I guess people haven't seen your username enough yet to realize what your game is, so on behalf of those who haven't picked up on it: The reason YouTube has no competitor yet is because you'd need $10 billion just to get the platform off the ground - that's servers, developers, datacenters, peering agreements, etc. Very few people have $10 billion lying around, and no one is interested in tackling…

You wouldn't need anywhere near that to launch a comparable competitor, unless the plan is to be at youtube scale on day one, which of course would not be realistic.

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki Gets 'Freedom Expression' Award Sponsored by YouTube

#126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well that won't work... former President Barack Obama received the Nobel Peace prize but he went on to involve the United States in additional foreign wars and went ham with drone strikes.

Perfect example. He also took programs to the next level — eg first president to authorize the US to assassinate its own citizens!

And signed a law authorizing indefinite detention of american citizens without trial.

Surprised he didn't win any champion of due process awards.

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki Gets 'Freedom Expression' Award Sponsored by YouTube

#127
From the award video:

> How do you make sure that everybody has a voice but also feels safe?

That question was never directly answered and, frankly, I don't think there it's possible to strike that balance. Even now there are simultaneously people who complain that their voice is denied or concealed on the platform while others who complain that the platform doesn't do enough to block or steer viewers away from problematic content.

> We've always since the beginning of YouTube had community guidelines because we've realized that there's certain types of content... like some from the very beginning... we wouldn't allow adult content, hate content, dangerous content... all of those types of content could really make it that YouTube was no longer a platform that was viable for all these other voices out there.

The terms she uses to describe content ("adult", "hate", and "dangerous") are all extremely vague - purposely so that YouTube can ban or allow content seemingly however it pleases them.

And what does she even mean by those types of content could really make YouTube no longer viable for other voices? YouTube is just part of the web - a much larger platform which very much allows those types of content. That hasn't made other voices any less viable. Whether or not it should be YouTube's responsibility to silence those voices, their existence clearly does not inherently reduce the viability of other voices.

> We're always updating our policies and when content is violative of any of the policies unfortunately we need to remove it. And so we removed 9 million videos last quarter and almost all of them - over 90% - we removed with machines, which is good because it means if there's content that's violative we find that really quickly.

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This is a "Free Expression" award, right? Am I playing the wrong video?

> We also want to protect creators like you who have built businesses with really really valuable content and make sure that we don't have a situation where advertisers pull their spend because there's some content on it that they're not comfortable with. So we want to make sure that we're protecting all the valuable creators like you.

Sure. You're protecting the creators. By demonetizing their businesses. Right.

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki Gets 'Freedom Expression' Award Sponsored by YouTube

#129

I think people here are fundamentally misunderstanding what happened here. There is a nonprofit, the "Freedom Forum Institute" that awarded this award. Only the award ceremony was sponsored by YouTube. It's common practice for nonprofits to use awards like this as an opportunity to ask for donations, and for the company associated with that person to offer to sponsor the awards ceremony. I don't see anything to indic…

The name "Freedom Forum Institute" itself sounds suspiciously doublespeak-ish, and makes me think it's actually a pro-censorship organisation.

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki Gets 'Freedom Expression' Award Sponsored by YouTube

#130

This is the most Soviet thing I've heard in a while. The Ministry of Culture awards itself for upholding the Soviet principles of cultural enlightenment!

Honestly, I hope San Fran dissolves into the rest of the country.

The mono-culture bubble in silicon valley is nauseating.

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