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Re: Debian votes to make no statement regarding RMS readmission to the FSF board

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov » Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 5:44 AM UTC

solosoyokaze wrote: post #112

account42 wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't have to visit RMS' personal website if you don't want to be "subjected" to his opinions. As for the Minsky defence, Stallmans position is an entirely rational one and the world would be a much better place if more people would stand up to defend those being attacked by the mob.

> As for the Minsky defence, Stallmans position is an entirely rational one and the world would be a much better place if more people would stand up to defend those being attacked by the mob. You're talking about defending a client in a child sex trafficking ring. That is absolutely disgusting and irrational. It does nothing but harm the free software movement, just as RMS' many other actions have done.

Yet again you crawl on this forum to spread unproven allegations. Case against Minsky is based on one witness testimony which is contradictes by the testimony of another witness. This was never tried in court, yet, you, time and again, present this allegation as a proven fact. Moreover, the whole ordeal is reported in a very unspecific and imprecise manner, which Stallman rightfully criticized. He also had never defended Epstein.

Your account here exists only for a crusade against Stallman, and i think that this site rules forbid that.

Re: Debian votes to make no statement regarding RMS readmission to the FSF board

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Post by throwaway0xa » Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 5:52 AM UTC

heikkilevanto wrote: post #70

I think "no comment" is the most reasonable and mature result. Debian is not directly involved in that fight, and adding fuel to the fight, on either side, is not going to help much.

"No comment" is equal to "silence is violence". You're directly involved in and complicit in the crime if you don't make public statements.

Re: Debian votes to make no statement regarding RMS readmission to the FSF board

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Post by solosoyokaze » Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 3:55 PM UTC

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #121

solosoyokaze wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> As for the Minsky defence, Stallmans position is an entirely rational one and the world would be a much better place if more people would stand up to defend those being attacked by the mob. You're talking about defending a client in a child sex trafficking ring. That is absolutely disgusting and irrational. It does nothing but harm the free software movement, just as RMS' many other actions have done.

Yet again you crawl on this forum to spread unproven allegations. Case against Minsky is based on one witness testimony which is contradictes by the testimony of another witness. This was never tried in court, yet, you, time and again, present this allegation as a proven fact. Moreover, the whole ordeal is reported in a very unspecific and imprecise manner, which Stallman rightfully criticized. He also had never defe…

> Case against Minsky is based on one witness testimony which is contradictes by the testimony of another witness

Absolutely false, you've fabricated this. Again, RMS' defense of his friend's involvement in a child sex trafficking ring is indefensible and those of you trying to defend it are dragging our industry and free software ideals through the mud. You're harming every single initiative you claim to support. There was no reason for RMS to talk about the Minsky case, fabricate a secnario involving Epstein's victims or discuss lowering the age of consent. None. It was a bullet in the head of the FSF.

> Your account here exists only for a crusade against Stallman, and i think that this site rules forbid that.

Again, incorrect. Yes I'm bothered by the toxicity being displayed by RMS' supporters, because I care about having a healthy work environment. I post about plenty of other things too though.