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Those are religious issues, and there is no objective standard to what we will be horrified by. The only safe bet is that humans will be different in different cultures, and thus different people will find different things bad.
Being horrified by cruelty against animals has nothing to do with religion. It's ethics.
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I'm a vegan and I could give a crap how we ate 100k years ago. It has no bearing on building a contemporary diet conducive to health optimal health and pollution related outcomes. Given trophic levels, meat takes far more energy, land, and clean water to produce. Population studies repeatedly show that large amount of meat consumption leads to individual and population health issues. The same is true of sugar and alc…
> There is no amount of persuasion that could make me go back I don't really eat meat myself but I don't believe you, sorry. What about "if you ate meat you could increase your brain capacity by 500 cc and live a longer, healthier life". Would that make you go back? I bet it would. Even if it wouldn't, it would probably make the majority of people go back for sure. You cannot seriously make an argument that we as hum…
However, if veganism required is to scale back massively scientific research due to drops in human intelligence, I would be on the fence... Further, I do recognize that giving up meat to be an actual sacrifice of summer form... There seems to be a large biological desire to eat meat, which probably is actually largely derived from gut bacteria, if I were to guess. Still, perhaps giving up meat is an actual sacrifice. With my indifference to meat after 16 years or so, I am heavily biased towards veganism as a tool for meeting the climate needs of our current planet biosphere.
Nah, man, I really don't like meat and I can't think of a defendable defense for it's continued consumption given what we know today.
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I'm a vegan and I could give a crap how we ate 100k years ago. It has no bearing on building a contemporary diet conducive to health optimal health and pollution related outcomes. Given trophic levels, meat takes far more energy, land, and clean water to produce. Population studies repeatedly show that large amount of meat consumption leads to individual and population health issues. The same is true of sugar and alc…
There are seaweed eating sheep in Scotland who do not produce methane (due to their diet) and live on beaches (so no land use). My point is that your statement "meat takes far more energy, land, and clean water" while more or less true for most meat today is not settled fact.
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Went in a peanuts store to get... well... peanuts. They have all sorts of *nuts. Before me a customer was talking to the seller about stuff. The seller offers him to try an almond coated with chocolate and cinnamon, which according to him is the best thing in the store. The customer asks if the chocolate has milk in it. Because, God forbid, he can't have anything animal related, cuz he's vegan. He wouldn't even touch…
What you are describing is not a fanatic. You are describing someone adhering to the basic tenants of their philosophy. A vegan fanatic would refuse to use cash in Australia because it contains tallow, an animal product used as a slipping agent in banknotes.
Then there are also the vegan protesters that throw themselves on the roads in front of food trucks. Adhering to their philosophy much? Faith Militants.
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> completely misstates the purpose and findings...primarily carnivorous, but still had some level of dietary plant consumption. That's exactly what the article says, so not sure why you're saying it completely misstates the purpose and findings.
Are you saying that your initial reaction to the headline ("For 2 million years, humans ate meat and little else") and first line ("...hyper-carnivorous “apex predators” that ate mostly the meat of large animals") was to note the obvious corollary that "There is little argument that Paleolithic diets were higher in plants than recent Polar diets..."? Since the whole point of science communications is communicating nu…
Nope. Because the article doesn't talk about polar diets and polar diets are not on my mind otherwise.
Thinking about it for 3 seconds, a "mostly" meat diet doesn't seem at all at odds with being higher in plants than a polar diet, which I gather is pretty much exclusively meat-based.
Well, regardless of the topic at hand (the point about brain-size shrinking when eating plants certainly sounds interesting), already the infographics are full of obvious typos ("Domesticsted", "Larg prey") which suggests shoddy editing at least. While that made me chuckle a bit in the context of "brain size" it also leads me to not giving to much credence to the quality of the rest of the text (which I cannot really…
I'll be skipping the brains, personally. Prion disease is among the more terrifying of the many horrors which biology has made a part of the human condition. Marrow is excellent eating, and the only reason I wouldn't encourage people to eat more of it is because I want to be able to afford it.
Osso buco on rice brings back so many childhood memories! Absolutely delicious and increadibly nutritious!
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What you are describing is not a fanatic. You are describing someone adhering to the basic tenants of their philosophy. A vegan fanatic would refuse to use cash in Australia because it contains tallow, an animal product used as a slipping agent in banknotes.
Guy saw the Satan in the form of a coated almond. It's ridiculous. Twist it, turn it anyway you wish, you're only fooling yourself. It's extremism. Then there are also the vegan protesters that throw themselves on the roads in front of food trucks. Adhering to their philosophy much? Faith Militants.
Nothing about their interaction has any impact on your life, other than maybe making you wait an extra 20 seconds in this particular case.
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There seem to be some rather dubious assumptions there, notably that hunting is a more efficient way of acquiring nutrition than gathering. I'm not a specialist in the field, but my understanding was the opposite. And sentences such as "[...] baboons [...] devote almost all their daylight hours to feeding [...] while adult Ache and Hadza men spend only a third of the day in food acquisition, preparation, and feeding"…
For prehistoric nomads hunting would definitely be a more reliable source of food. Think of winters, when there's little to gather but you can still hunt a mammoth or some other large prey. This way, you take advantage of the muscle/fat the animal built while eating stuff you can't eat. So, I could see prehistoric nomads being mostly carnivores for a whole season. Which would also leave enough evidence on their remai…
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...says one vegan. I ask others, I get a different answer. This is the typical "No True Scotsman" argument. Look it up.
Not it's not. Vegan is either or. People saying otherwise are inventing things. Look it up.
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I've been vegetarian for 25 years. I'm male, 45 years old, my resting heart rate is around 50, and I can run 10km in under 50 minutes (and I do this about 3 times per week). Scroll back 5 years. My wife and I decided to become vegan (for various reasons - carbon footprint, animal welfare, all that jazz). Having been healthy vegetarians for about 20 years, it should have been easy, but regardless, we were meticulous.…
there are a lot of micronutrients that humans depend on that can be easy to miss out on when you switch to a vegan diet. but this is the case with any "extreme" diet.
Micros:
- Vitamins: A, B[1,2,3,5,6,7,9,12], C, D, E, K
- Minerals: Ca, P, Mg, Na, Cl, K, S
- Trace minerals: Fe, Mn, Cu, Zn, I, F, Se
Or even macros:
- Glucose
- Fiber
- Lipids
- Essential amino acids (EAA's): his, ile, leu, lys, met, phe, thr, trp, val
- Conditionally-essential amino acids (CEAA's): arg, cys, gln, gly, pro, tyr
Your definition of "extreme" is extremely dishonest FUD.