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Re: LineageOS 18.1

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Post by colordrops »

NotPavlovsDog wrote: post #115
colordrops wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Android is still horrible until you can control background activity or at least background network traffic. There is no way to shut those off completely. I assume this is an intentional decision by google as it would severely limit the platform for analytics and marketing.

A simple approach without root is using a fake VPN blocker such as Blokada (FOSS) https://blokada.org/ Scary to see all the hits. For complete - requires a lot of work and the custom ROM builders do not appear to be so interested.

I do use a fake VPN blocker, and that's how I found out that you can't do it. You can either block completely, or you have to allow background network. There needs to be a "only allow data while in foreground" but google is a sociopathic company (as are most public companies) and wouldn't do something like this that is user friendly but revenue unfriendly.

Re: LineageOS 18.1

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Post by jeffchien »

Neil44 wrote: post #2

Love these guys work. Turning devices too old and slow into useful devices again.

Seconding the "turning _current_ devices into useful devices" sentiment too. My Samsung T720 (Tablet S5e) had 15-20GB main storage capacity with the stock ROM's partition scheme, but 50GB with LineageOS. Absolutely ridiculous. I'd never buy a tablet without LineageOS support.

Re: LineageOS 18.1

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Post by j1elo »

Flex247A wrote: post #10

I am using an unofficial build of LineageOS 14.1 on my 6 year old tablet (Mi PAD 1 'mocha'). After using it for over a month, the ROM is amazingly stable. The earlier MiUi which the tablet shipped with (7.5.2 Android KitKat) had problems with memory management. For some reason, the 2GB RAM was partitioned into two parts, one for the OS and the other for the running apps. But LineageOS does not have this problem, and…

I'm in the same boat with my MiPad 1 Mocha! But the build of LineageOS 14.1, exactly from that forum thread you linked, was giving me some major issues:

* A very bad one is that the tabled would suddenly reboot, from time to time, for no apparent reason (e.g. it might reboot just after opening the application drawer).

* Even worse, using cabled headphones with the audio jack would be dangerous!! because some times a very high pitched beep might start sounding with max volume.

Those two issues are clearly a product of how these alternative ROM builds are done: by some random hobbyist, in their free time, no professional QA at all, and some times changing internal system parameters without really understanding very well what they are doing.

All in all, pretty much an exercise on luck. The high pitched sound was the worst for me, it worsened my tinnitus problem for several hours afterwards...

In the end I tried my luck again with the AospExtended v5.8 [1] and this time things seemed to work out much better. But still, I would never personally recommend an unofficial Android ROM, ever. It feels like sending people to take a stroll through a mine field.

[1]: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-8-1-0-20200224-unoffi...

Re: LineageOS 18.1

#124

Post by yyyk »

oooooooooooow wrote: post #60
skynet-9000 wrote: post #46

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You are forgetting that DRM stopped all that piracy that bankrupted the movie industry. That's also why there were so few movies released in the last 15 months or so. It really debunks that myth that open source software could ever handle the strong encryption that's so desperately needed to protect new movies and TV shows from showing up on The Pirate Bay. I for one welcome this cogent and secure technological respo…

I call nonsense on this one. Anything that's on current streaming services (especially the popular stuff, aka the money makers) can be easily found on p2p networks. DRM has never won a single battle that I know of. These services are not successful because of exclusivity, but because of convenience, feature richness, legality, speed of access... in other words they are worth the price. It's important to be aware of t…

>DRM has never won a single battle that I know of.

You need to define 'victory' in a proper manner.

Businesspeople don't really care if some lone hacker in some forsaken internet forum broke their DRM. They don't need to fulfill the perfect technical victory condition. So long as they've limited the use of the devices for nearly all users for the commercial lifespan of the device*, and (most importantly) so long they think they make more money than without, they've won as far as they're concerned.

Their criteria is far more realistic and relevant to the world at large than the technical 'never ever get hacked' criteria. There's a good argument that perfect protection (if it were possible) would actually be counterproductive to the bottom line.

* Just look at how general computing has been getting more and more restricted.

Re: LineageOS 18.1

#125

Post by eikenberry »

Mediterraneo10 wrote: post #51
arsome wrote: post #39

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A lot happened - many more recent phones, especially from big brands like Samsung heavily restrict unlocking of their bootloaders. Google implemented SafetyNet, meaning anyone who wants to use things like Google Pay, Netflix, even Pokemon Go and others now has to jump through hoops. Additionally, things like Netflix are still restricted from HD playback on unlocked devices due to hardware DRM. Android has also gotten…

Plus, several countries have announced that their COVID vaccination passports will exist mainly in app form, since paper certificates are supposedly too easy to forge. Since only a tiny minority of techies like us around here run alternative Android images and app developers have come to expect Google Play Services everywhere, it is almost certain that those COVID passport apps will require Play Services (or even Saf…

A lot of people still use flip/feature phones as well and other people just don't have cell phones. I guess these people are just forbidden to travel.

Re: LineageOS 18.1

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Post by NotPavlovsDog »

colordrops wrote: post #121
NotPavlovsDog wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A simple approach without root is using a fake VPN blocker such as Blokada (FOSS) https://blokada.org/ Scary to see all the hits. For complete - requires a lot of work and the custom ROM builders do not appear to be so interested.

I do use a fake VPN blocker, and that's how I found out that you can't do it. You can either block completely, or you have to allow background network. There needs to be a "only allow data while in foreground" but google is a sociopathic company (as are most public companies) and wouldn't do something like this that is user friendly but revenue unfriendly.

As you outline, only a partial blocking is possible when google services and applications are on the phone (today this includes most apps from the g-store).

A "pure" analytics service may be blocked when reaching to a known spyware server. Bundled spyware and telemetry (is that "google core") are unfortunately not blocked.

Re: LineageOS 18.1

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Post by 3np »

dartharva wrote: post #89
3np wrote: post #75

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Very much OT, but maybe it’s worth a shot... I wasn’t able to do a full backup of my Galaxy (encrypted, stock, unrooted) so installed TWRP. Now I’m stuck in the infamous boot loop and can’t get out. Knox is tripped. I kind of really need to get in to get some files in there. Should have known better but it’s a bit frustrating that it was precisely trying to perform a backup that made this happen. Can’t find stock fir…

Sorry to hear that, I've been in the same situation for too many times now. Yeah, recovering your files at that stage is very likely impossible. You can get your stock firmware easily though, with any of these tools: Frija (GUI, recommended): https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/tool-frija-samsung-firmwa... Samloader: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/tool-samloader-samfirm-fr... samfirm.js: https://github.com/jesec/s…

Dang it. Thanks for taking the time to reply!

Re: LineageOS 18.1

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Post by Flex247A »

j1elo wrote: post #123
Flex247A wrote: post #10

I am using an unofficial build of LineageOS 14.1 on my 6 year old tablet (Mi PAD 1 'mocha'). After using it for over a month, the ROM is amazingly stable. The earlier MiUi which the tablet shipped with (7.5.2 Android KitKat) had problems with memory management. For some reason, the 2GB RAM was partitioned into two parts, one for the OS and the other for the running apps. But LineageOS does not have this problem, and…

I'm in the same boat with my MiPad 1 Mocha! But the build of LineageOS 14.1, exactly from that forum thread you linked, was giving me some major issues: * A very bad one is that the tabled would suddenly reboot, from time to time, for no apparent reason (e.g. it might reboot just after opening the application drawer). * Even worse, using cabled headphones with the audio jack would be dangerous!! because some times a…

Hey, I deleted all the partitions of the device before flashing. Did you try flashing again? Because I did not face any such problems. Sound is a bit quieter, but that's pretty much it.

Re: LineageOS 18.1

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Post by Flex247A »

NotPavlovsDog wrote: post #114
Flex247A wrote: post #10

I am using an unofficial build of LineageOS 14.1 on my 6 year old tablet (Mi PAD 1 'mocha'). After using it for over a month, the ROM is amazingly stable. The earlier MiUi which the tablet shipped with (7.5.2 Android KitKat) had problems with memory management. For some reason, the 2GB RAM was partitioned into two parts, one for the OS and the other for the running apps. But LineageOS does not have this problem, and…

I have been reviewing security for unofficial builds, and it's pretty abysmal, same for GPL compliance by the ROM creators. Could you share how you reviewed security for the unofficial ROM? I'm putting a list of actions to take, but so far it appears it will take days to review ROMS, alternatively download a rom, review what is in it and build from Lineage official source, with Lineage having the better privacy recor…

I am just a normal user and wasn't aware that developers didn't review security properly ...
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