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Work peak and professional decline (2019)

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Re: Work peak and professional decline (2019)

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While I share your antipathy for low-efficiency vehicles, why is traveling around the national parks of the west a sad way to spend your retirement years?

Personally, RVs kind of miss the point of tooling around nature if one can wimp out and retreat to a house-on-wheels

"Why bother with a boat when you can just swim?"

Re: Work peak and professional decline (2019)

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Related: The notion of "retirement" is a relatively recent invention. Traditionally, when you were too old to work the farm or prove the theorem (sorry, cognitive decline is a well-documented thing, and tends to coincide with physical decline[1]), you would "retire" to a productive life in less-demanding pursuits: caretaking of the grandkids, woodworking, food preservation, writing, etc. It's important to maintain ho…

If somebody is as illiterate as I am: metformin is type II diabetes medicine.

Wow, I keep hearing people like Tim Ferris and Dr. Peter Attia talking about using Metformin. I had no idea it is a diabetes medication. From what I keep hearing on random SV related podcasts, it's some anti-aging drug [1].

https://peterattiamd.com/metformin-and-exercise/

Re: Work peak and professional decline (2019)

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Related: The notion of "retirement" is a relatively recent invention. Traditionally, when you were too old to work the farm or prove the theorem (sorry, cognitive decline is a well-documented thing, and tends to coincide with physical decline[1]), you would "retire" to a productive life in less-demanding pursuits: caretaking of the grandkids, woodworking, food preservation, writing, etc. It's important to maintain ho…

> Related: The notion of "retirement" is a relatively recent invention. Not really. The idea of old people who could no longer work effectively but still had many years of their life ahead of them is not a recent invention. The notion of an old age pension -- whether paid by a company or a government -- that "everyone" got is relatively new. But that doesn't mean "retirement" is new. It was just paid for by individua…

> entire other half of humanity -- women -- who also weren't in the workforce

What on earth? To think the entirety of women of any age group in 1880 did not work is very "not even wrong" territory. They worked all kinds of jobs, inside and outside the home, from a very young age to old age. Many industries employed more women than men.

Flip to page 208 if you want a table.

https://fraser.stlouisfed.org/files/docs/publications/women/...

Re: Work peak and professional decline (2019)

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If somebody is as illiterate as I am: metformin is type II diabetes medicine.

It has also been withdrawn from the market.

Many (but not, I think, all—there keep being new announcements) individual makers have extended-release metformin have recalled recent batches and at least temporarily stopped selling it due to detected unacceptable levels of a known carcinogen in the tablets.

Re: Work peak and professional decline (2019)

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> low-efficiency vehicles Tangent: Are these actually low efficiency? Sure, 10 mpg (this is a more typical average, BTW, not 8 mpg) is terrible gas mileage ... for an average car. But a portable house that can drive down the interstate isn't just a car. Per pound, it doesn't seem that bad.

> Per pound, it doesn't seem that bad. That's circular reasoning; carrying zillions of kilos around with you is the part that's inefficient.

Perhaps, but going down that path means making a moral judgement about every activity someone undertakes. Fuel efficiency is at least fairly objective. Whether someone should stay at home instead of travel in their RV, that is a moral thing. And I'm pretty sure that just about 0 people have an unassailable record of life choices.

Re: Work peak and professional decline (2019)

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I'm in my late 20's and I notice my mental energy/sharpness being slightly lower compared to what they were at my peak age of 22. I learned to compensate for this with some behavioral and biochemical kludges, but the reality of the trend is pretty obvious at this point. Ten years ago I picked up biology and recently added to it ageing research as a hobby, we'll see if it pays off eventually. In mice ... many things o…

I'm 47, and I don't feel that much decline, and in some ways I'm far more productive. I'm more targeted, experience makes me wiser than I was in my 20s, and the only thing I really notice is that I definitely have 'on' days where I'm pretty good, and 'off' days (more often than not) where I'm just kind of cloudy in comparison. I don't remember these on/off days in my 20s, however, I wasn't paying attention at all, in…

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Re: Work peak and professional decline (2019)

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I am quite surprised at the amount of negativity surrounding this piece. Yes, it's sort of clickbait-y. You don't need to feel like you're about to wither and die because you just turned 44. Yes, it's deeply anecdotal. Lots of older people are incredibly successful in their fields. That 65-year old engineer you know is great! But frankly, it doesn't matter who you are, or what you do: you will begin to get worse at i…

Sometimes it's really tempting to tie ones value to their own ability, especially when one's pretty successful at it.

But in the end, the ability of one person on the backdrop of the planet and the universe where it reside is minuscule. I've felt content to just marvel at the surrounding, satisfying my own curiosity, and the world has never been a greater place for that. So much knowledge available over just a click, and so much more to come from talented researchers all over the globe. This is how I will feel peace - when my inevitable decline arrives.

Being an observer is also a lot of fun. I love writing rng based simulations for the same reason.

Re: Work peak and professional decline (2019)

#128

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Why hasn't EV tech hit the RV world? How many batteries could one of those Greyhound bus size RV's, or smaller ones, hold? Maybe it has and I'm ignorant. I get that corporate shipping industries would benefit but a lot of delivery vans are the same platform as an RV. I think a Ford F350 is the size of those 25 ft uhaul rentals - about same size as a decent sized RV. RV's typically park somewhere for days, campgrounds…

Cybertruck can tow a fairly large Airstream.

How far?

That's really the biggest issue with electric towing right now. To get a reasonable range while towing a travel trailer, the EV needs four times the battery capacity, maybe more. This is a pretty big capital investment, and then you're toting around an extra few thousand pounds even when not towing.

We will get there eventually, but I expect that tow vehicles will be amongst the last personal vehicles to be successfully electrified.

Re: Work peak and professional decline (2019)

#129

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> low-efficiency vehicles Tangent: Are these actually low efficiency? Sure, 10 mpg (this is a more typical average, BTW, not 8 mpg) is terrible gas mileage ... for an average car. But a portable house that can drive down the interstate isn't just a car. Per pound, it doesn't seem that bad.

The greenhouse effect doesn’t care about why the CO2 was made. A portable house and essentials weighing probably 5kg can go on your back.

Are you prepared to legislate what constitutes allowable leisure activity? Require people to justify why they aren't choosing the smallest plausibly usable car, if they can justify a car at all? Submit to the government every vacation plan, every potential career change, every hobby to make sure it has the least environmental impact?

For every choice you make, I guarantee someone can point out how you could have been more environmentally friendly. Let's not go down that path.

Re: Work peak and professional decline (2019)

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Retirement seems like a pretty unimaginative goal. See the Japanese concept of "Ikigai" (ie, raison d-etre or reason to get out of bed in the morning). I don't plan to retire, though I may shift the balance towards my non-economically-oriented interests after putting my children through college.

I think of retirement along the same lines. I plan to remain productive, some of which may be economically oriented, but I simply won't be worrying about the outcome or having someone with power over me telling me how and when I am allowed to do it.

Freedom?
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