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Google Play service fee reduced to 15% for the first $1M/year

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Re: Google Play service fee reduced to 15% for the first $1M/year

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post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You know that Android is open source... Technically Android is OpenSource. De-facto - its not. For many many years now Google is adding all non-os functionality into "support" libraries, "Google Services" - the name changes periodically - but the essence is the same: Making sure that any Android that is not "Google certified" won't be able to run Android apps - which all use these libraries - and won't have apps su…

But there is an opensource implementation of those support services (microg) which work for most apps.

Except the drivers are always closed, so you cannot run any OS that you like or have long-term support.

Re: Google Play service fee reduced to 15% for the first $1M/year

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I wish developers would start using the browser more and rely less on the official stores which tax them unfairly. I don't want to install your application, just give me a good web mobile experience.

I wish we could in iOS. Apple's intentional crippling of PWAs should be illegal (push notifications supported on desktop Safari but not iOS?).

Re: Google Play service fee reduced to 15% for the first $1M/year

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you make $999k in revenue, you will receive almost $850k in profit. If you make $1000k in revenue, you will instead receive $700k in profit. You're strangely incentivized to completely shut down your app as you approach the 1000k mark, unless you're confident you'll make it past the 1200k mark, where it's worth it again. Silly system.

Wealth distribution is exponential, meaning almost nobody will fall in the small revenue gap you mentioned.

Until you’re that somebody, and then you make a post about it and it blows up on HN.

Re: Google Play service fee reduced to 15% for the first $1M/year

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What's also not being said here is that ~99% of apps on Google Play don't make money this way either. Due to a combination of Android user's reluctance to spend money on apps at all and the rampant piracy that Android's open model makes trivially easy, most developers only way to make money is through in-app advertising, which this change obviously makes no difference to. Google Play is mostly a pyramid scheme. Devel…

This is not true. Yes, Android users tend to pay less for apps, but useful apps that provide daily utility actually make good money as well.

If you have a brand-name app like Runtastic, Netflix, Headspace or whatever, the platform doesn't really matter. You buy the product, because you want it.

It's probably different for utility apps like a different Camera, a photo editor, small productivity apps you need only once per month.

I'm happy about this change and it will definitely affect my bottom line in the range of several thousand euro per month – and I'm an indie dev.

Edit: I just looked it up and calculated the difference. I will make roughly 17,000€ more per year through this change.

Re: Google Play service fee reduced to 15% for the first $1M/year

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Worth remembering that as good as it is that Google is reducing it's abusive taxation on third party developers, the primary reason they're doing this is to try to quiet the majority of developers asking for stronger government regulations against this taxation without actually reducing their profit much, since the large companies which bring in the majority of revenue still have to pay full price. Basically, they're…

But can't Google avert this by paying off politicians? You know, with the legalized-bribe political contributions that are so popular?

Anyway, Google's hold on mobile ecosystems is really a menace. So much so that it's difficult to even tell apart Google Play the store, Google Play the service(s), Google Play the library(/ies), and whatever else they call by that name.

Re: Google Play service fee reduced to 15% for the first $1M/year

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What's also not being said here is that ~99% of apps on Google Play don't make money this way either. Due to a combination of Android user's reluctance to spend money on apps at all and the rampant piracy that Android's open model makes trivially easy, most developers only way to make money is through in-app advertising, which this change obviously makes no difference to. Google Play is mostly a pyramid scheme. Devel…

iOS is full of the same free ad-supported games that seem to solely advertise other free ad-supported games. I wouldn't be surprised if Google own all the ad companies they're using too since Apple ditched iAds.

Re: Google Play service fee reduced to 15% for the first $1M/year

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post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those apps would not survive without vendor-included single click app stores anyway. I find this a little amusing because it's the exact reason why Microsoft lost their IE anti-trust case. Users were given IE by default, and because using something else required effort IE took a huge chunk of the market remarkably quickly. That was deemed to be violating their effective monopoly position on OSs to influence their pos…

What was really the outcome of Microsoft losing the anti-trust case? Windows still comes with a preinstalled browser and I don't remember ever seeing a version of Windows without one.

For a while copies of Windows sold in Europe let the user choose which browser would be installed by default during the setup process.

Microsoft's obligation to do this ended in 2014 and now we're back to them begging everyone to use Edge.

Re: Google Play service fee reduced to 15% for the first $1M/year

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What's also not being said here is that ~99% of apps on Google Play don't make money this way either. Due to a combination of Android user's reluctance to spend money on apps at all and the rampant piracy that Android's open model makes trivially easy, most developers only way to make money is through in-app advertising, which this change obviously makes no difference to. Google Play is mostly a pyramid scheme. Devel…

Client applications should be assumed to be insecure. If you’re app doesn’t load content from a secure (paid) backend, you’re not going to make much money on the Play Store.

Re: Google Play service fee reduced to 15% for the first $1M/year

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post #124

What's also not being said here is that ~99% of apps on Google Play don't make money this way either. Due to a combination of Android user's reluctance to spend money on apps at all and the rampant piracy that Android's open model makes trivially easy, most developers only way to make money is through in-app advertising, which this change obviously makes no difference to. Google Play is mostly a pyramid scheme. Devel…

This is not true. Yes, Android users tend to pay less for apps, but useful apps that provide daily utility actually make good money as well. If you have a brand-name app like Runtastic, Netflix, Headspace or whatever, the platform doesn't really matter. You buy the product, because you want it. It's probably different for utility apps like a different Camera, a photo editor, small productivity apps you need only once…

I'll also make more because of it. I'm just saying that it won't make that much difference to the vast majority of developers.

Re: Google Play service fee reduced to 15% for the first $1M/year

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What's also not being said here is that ~99% of apps on Google Play don't make money this way either. Due to a combination of Android user's reluctance to spend money on apps at all and the rampant piracy that Android's open model makes trivially easy, most developers only way to make money is through in-app advertising, which this change obviously makes no difference to. Google Play is mostly a pyramid scheme. Devel…

That's exactly one of the reasons, but a representative one, why Google needs to be broken apart
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