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Re: Right to Repair Gaining Momentum

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Post by bzzzt » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 2:41 PM UTC

rover0 wrote: post #59

bzzzt wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because there are also off-brand "Apple iPhone camera's" (for instance QC failures from the factory, third shifts or clones)

There are no 3rd party iphone camera's for recent iphones. Apple blocks replacing an iphone camera with an iphone camera using their software. iPhone 12 is unrepairable: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnG3h3Jewq4

Apple (and authorizaed repair shops) can and will repair iPhone 12's.

Just wondering how often you'd need camera repair. I've never heard of someone needing a camera replacement for their phone, so to me this looks like a guy inflating a niche problem to enormous proportions to make a point for his sponsors.

Re: Right to Repair Gaining Momentum

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Post by HomeDeLaPot » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 5:56 PM UTC

JoshTko wrote: post #57

Should software companies give access to source code so that users can fix bugs?

Yes, depending on the audience. If it's a software library, it should be open source—devs are likely to benefit from reading the source, if not likely to contribute fixes. If it's some kind of SaaS or mobile app, maybe nobody will take the time to contribute anything worthwhile. But I would say iPhones and tractors are widely used, expensive, and have capable audiences, making them great candidates for right to repair/contribute/learn. John Deere and Apple have simply found that they can make more money by forcing users to come to them for repairs.

Re: Right to Repair Gaining Momentum

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Post by simion314 » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 6:35 PM UTC

bzzzt wrote: post #116

ls65536 wrote: post #92

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No need to imagine...This sort of scenario already happened to someone I know with their Apple device: They had just wiped their iPhone in an attempt to clean it up and restore the software to factory condition, and afterwards it required an OS software update for some reason (okay, sure), so this was done. After this update, some kind of "activation" was required (why?) before the device was usable at all for anythi…

While I agree a company like Apple should do better in reporting errors like these I don't share your conclusion that's purely out of malice (and driven by profit) instead of ordinary incompetency (or lack of time, bad management etc). That's not meant in defense of Apple, but because I'm very anti-jumping to conclusions. The iCloud activation lock is a theft prevention option that locks the phone to an iCloud accoun…

All Apple policies make Apple more money. Not releasing a schematic, software to diagnose shit and forbidding selling of parts does not contribute to your device not getting stolen. All it does it make Apple more money because instead of having a thing repaired for cheap you are forced to either pay a lot of money to repair your stuff or buy a new product,

As I said I am sure the Apple car will have the tires DRMed , the excuse is to prevent stealing but the reason is to use only Apple tires, installed by Apple geniuses on your Apple car(probably will require also Apple only oils and even the water for your windscreen must be installed by a genius and be a special Apple water).

Re: Right to Repair Gaining Momentum

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Post by rover0 » Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 1:58 AM UTC

bzzzt wrote: post #121

rover0 wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are no 3rd party iphone camera's for recent iphones. Apple blocks replacing an iphone camera with an iphone camera using their software. iPhone 12 is unrepairable: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnG3h3Jewq4

Apple (and authorizaed repair shops) can and will repair iPhone 12's. Just wondering how often you'd need camera repair. I've never heard of someone needing a camera replacement for their phone, so to me this looks like a guy inflating a niche problem to enormous proportions to make a point for his sponsors.

Louis is a repair guy, not some guy working "for his sponsors."

The camera is an example of unrepairability.