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Re: Nextcloud Hub 21

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Post by mlk »

francis-io wrote: post #11

I trialed setting up my own nextcloud instance a while back. It's still very complex to get working in docker. From memory, the card/caldav traefik rewrites are still not working. SSL was complex to setup with Collabora, and still required manual GUI steps to link into Nextcloud (my biggest pet peeve). I also remember getting the initial setup wrong a few times in the initial setup wizard, which required me to delete…

they don't even have a decent CLI client for file syncing, I know you can use any webdav client but the GUI client seems more efficient than anything else I've tried.

Re: Nextcloud Hub 21

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Post by romseb »

francis-io wrote: post #11

I trialed setting up my own nextcloud instance a while back. It's still very complex to get working in docker. From memory, the card/caldav traefik rewrites are still not working. SSL was complex to setup with Collabora, and still required manual GUI steps to link into Nextcloud (my biggest pet peeve). I also remember getting the initial setup wrong a few times in the initial setup wizard, which required me to delete…

Although I use docker for most projects, for Nextcloud I decided to go with the snap version, which was very easy to use.[1]

[1] https://github.com/nextcloud/nextcloud-snap

Re: Nextcloud Hub 21

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Post by waynesonfire »

nucleardog wrote: post #112
kop316 wrote: post #25

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That's been my experience as well. I have run Owncloud -> Nextcloud (when it was first released) since at least mid-2015, and I am on the same instance I first built. I stay on the stable channel, and I get a notification if an app or nextcloud itself has an upgrade. The biggest issue is that the "Security & setup warnings" sometimes tells me I need to upgrade my database (and gives me the exact commands to do it) af…

Also started with OwnCloud and moved to NextCloud. If I'm not mistaken I've been upgrading the same NextCloud install since version 11 or so. Now on 19. Every time it's basically: mv nextcloud nextcloud.r19 mkdir nextcloud && pushd nextcloud && tar -zxf ../nextcloud-r20.tgz cp nextcloud.r19/config/config.php nextcloud/config/config.php # set permissions sudo -u php php occ upgrade Then just log into the web UI and ch…

uhh.. that sounds awful. owncloud just has me click a button.

Re: Nextcloud Hub 21

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Post by teekert »

40four wrote: post #80
reasonabl_human wrote: post #49

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Very easy to setup and maintain with a dedicated unraid box. Grab an old dell enterprise server like the r210 II and put some WD reds in raid + zfs, install unraid, and it’s good to go. I actually virtualize unraid within esxi so that one small 1U box can be my router / firewall and an unraid machine serving home services. Best setup I’ve ever had and learned so much along the way!

This sounds interesting, might have to look into it. Running a physical home server would be awesome, but it currently sounds above my skill level as far as hardware and networking :) I run a cheap EC2 instance, and plug it into an S3 bucket for file storage, and my RDS MySQL database.

My physical home server is a nuc. Could also be a Raspberry Pi 4, little hardware skill required :)

Re: Nextcloud Hub 21

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Post by nickthemagicman »

rfoo wrote: post #53
nickthemagicman wrote: post #41

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Maybe their hobby is not tinkering with Nextcloud and they would rather put that limited time/energy into setting up k8s clusters or developing a web app. Who knows? The point is with limited time one has to pick their battles and maybe setting up zpools and a full next cloud docker compose isn't what they want to spend their time on.

> The point is with limited time one has to pick their battles Yeah, that's why I pay for a managed K8s instance for my toy projects but do my own sysadmin work on various self-hosted things. The former is not my hobby so I'd rather pay someone else to do it. This is an inherent limitation of our current tech stack, and unfortunately the cheapest mitigation we have is "take full system snapshot a.k.a. do your sysadmi…

Numerous pieces of software do LTS with no additional cost or supported via other avenues.

It's literally just branching at one release and fixing bugs in that release for a few years, which also benefits upstream branches.

That way people may lose new features but gain stability.

Re: Nextcloud Hub 21

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Post by moistbar »

francis-io wrote: post #11

I trialed setting up my own nextcloud instance a while back. It's still very complex to get working in docker. From memory, the card/caldav traefik rewrites are still not working. SSL was complex to setup with Collabora, and still required manual GUI steps to link into Nextcloud (my biggest pet peeve). I also remember getting the initial setup wrong a few times in the initial setup wizard, which required me to delete…

I think you might be overcomplicating this, because the Docker setup of Nextcloud is one of the easiest and most streamlined I've seen on Docker Hub. Including the proxy, all you need to give it is the DNS name, the ports you want open, and where you want the data stored. Traefik is also huge overkill for a personal server, IMO. jwilder/nginx-proxy is braindead simple and has a companion container that will automatically get you LetsEncrypt certs when you make a new container that asks for it. The only thing the default Docker install is missing is a TURN server for group voice/video calls.

Re: Nextcloud Hub 21

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Post by moistbar »

StavrosK wrote: post #83
francis-io wrote: post #11

I trialed setting up my own nextcloud instance a while back. It's still very complex to get working in docker. From memory, the card/caldav traefik rewrites are still not working. SSL was complex to setup with Collabora, and still required manual GUI steps to link into Nextcloud (my biggest pet peeve). I also remember getting the initial setup wrong a few times in the initial setup wizard, which required me to delete…

Hmm, my Docker-Compose file is much less complicated: https://www.pastery.net/zykzva/ Though I do have a 4-line Caddy config and a Postgres server on the host.

GP is using a Traefik reverse proxy, which is where the extra stuff comes from.

Re: Nextcloud Hub 21

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Post by johnchristopher »

francis-io wrote: post #11

I trialed setting up my own nextcloud instance a while back. It's still very complex to get working in docker. From memory, the card/caldav traefik rewrites are still not working. SSL was complex to setup with Collabora, and still required manual GUI steps to link into Nextcloud (my biggest pet peeve). I also remember getting the initial setup wrong a few times in the initial setup wizard, which required me to delete…

> The examples they provide are good, but you cant really provide for every different config. I wanted to use traefik, so I brought the complexity on my self.

I am with you. But. It's incredible how so many open source projects keep on delivering docker-compose files that either are not compatible with a reverse proxy or bundle a reverse proxy themselves.

It seems like the use case of having traefik/ngninx as a RP which does the SSL termination over how many services you want is fringe practice. Most of the apps/services I encountered could be blind to a RP but I often have to play around it.

> I want to have confidence that I can restore a db + files and have a working service come back up. At the moment, I don't trust Nextcloud to always come back up.

Well. Today OVH tried to upgrade things and it broke my VPS AND my owncloud db. Hopefully I had some sql dump backup but the DB was so borked I couldn't login in it even from root inside the container or in any other way.

I mean: don't trust the app provider to do the backup, set something up yourself.

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