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Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Post by fxtentacle »

elevation wrote: post #105

I use K9 for a small LLC, and would like to support the developer. My CPA advises that anonymous[1]/charitable contributions are not tax deductible business expenses. However, if the recipient publicly acknowledges your sponsorship, it's considered an "advertising" expense. To accept contributions from small corporations using your app, consider offering a low-friction non-charitable service such as a one-year placem…

Fully agree. Nobody is going to ask about me purchasing a monthly license or a monthly recurring advertisement slot with company money. But monthly donations are a PITA with regards to taxes and you run a risk of having to pay taxes on them as if they had been pure profit.

So give me a way to "purchase" and I'll be happy to donate.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Post by fxtentacle »

cketti wrote: post #120
elevation wrote: post #105

I use K9 for a small LLC, and would like to support the developer. My CPA advises that anonymous[1]/charitable contributions are not tax deductible business expenses. However, if the recipient publicly acknowledges your sponsorship, it's considered an "advertising" expense. To accept contributions from small corporations using your app, consider offering a low-friction non-charitable service such as a one-year placem…

I understand it's difficult for a company to give money to an open source project. But none of the options you've mentioned sound very appealing to me. GitHub displays the avatars of sponsors. Maybe that's an option that satisfies the "acknowledges sponsorship" criterion? https://github.com/sponsors/cketti

They could release a paid upgrade that allows you to customize the splash screen to show your company logo

That's clearly advertisement and paying extra to have your logo on a product is an established business practice.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

m-chrzan wrote: post #71
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #40

I used K-9 back in my Android days (5+ years ago). It's biggest weakness was, and to my knowledge, still is, inability to support modern OAuth authentication schemes that Google and Microsoft have largely switched to. Sometimes I get a notification from a comment on the GitHub issue still. It used to be able to connect to Exchange servers, but hasn't been able to for nearly a decade.

What exactly do you need this for? If it's for authenticating with their IMAP/SMTP, app passwords have worked for me with Gmail, even on 2FA-secured G Suite accounts. No idea about Microsoft though.

Exchange administrators usually disable IMAP. K-9 originally was one of the few apps that could still talk to Exchange servers. But it's failed to keep up with the times.

Currently you have to allow "less secure apps" on your Google account to use K-9.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Post by Cu3PO42 »

cketti wrote: post #120
elevation wrote: post #105

I use K9 for a small LLC, and would like to support the developer. My CPA advises that anonymous[1]/charitable contributions are not tax deductible business expenses. However, if the recipient publicly acknowledges your sponsorship, it's considered an "advertising" expense. To accept contributions from small corporations using your app, consider offering a low-friction non-charitable service such as a one-year placem…

I understand it's difficult for a company to give money to an open source project. But none of the options you've mentioned sound very appealing to me. GitHub displays the avatars of sponsors. Maybe that's an option that satisfies the "acknowledges sponsorship" criterion? https://github.com/sponsors/cketti

You could also sell access to some "extra documentation". It doesn't have to be particularly useful or add any value at all, it just has to be there. You could probably go as "far" as just writing a two-page rundown of IMAP or something. Maybe even put it online for free and sell access to a PDF. The point is there's a tangible "benefit".

This does not apply solely to taxation, but also what is an easy sell to management.

All of this is extra administrative work that understandably you don't want to deal with, but it may open the door to significantly more sponsorships, so it could be worth looking into.

Disclaimer: I am neither a lawyer nor a CPA.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Post by rakoo »

folmar wrote: post #116
rakoo wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think business doesn't actually want Email, it wants NNTP. The semantics are different enough that both models have a reason to exist and complement each other: - With email you write to a specific address. With NNTP you write to a group. In a business you almost always want to target multiple people, because activity is interesting (and relevant) to many people. - To solve that we have a hack that is mailing lists…

Message editing is supported over NNTP with Supersedes: header.

That is amazing, I never knew about that. We should have standardized it for email as well.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Post by scintill76 »

richardwhiuk wrote: post #91
jqpabc123 wrote: post #21

How to create one super successful email client. - Support IMAP IDLE - Support all the major business platforms: Web, Windows, Mac, iOS, and Android. - Support email encryption on a one off basis as needed. Nothing fancy just encrypt the email with AES256. Don't worry I'll get the key to the reipient. Why this would be super successful. 1) It would eliminate instant messaging for most business use. 2) Consistency, si…

You can't do IMAP on iOS in the background.

The Mail app has an IMAP extension that allows doing this over push notifications. https://github.com/freswa/dovecot-xaps-daemon

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Post by scintill76 »

bogwog wrote: post #47

I remember using K-9 when I got my first (or second?) Android phone. I don’t remember the exact version, but it was probably pre-ICS. I do remember that I liked it a lot. Fast forward to a couple of years ago, I tried the app again and was disappointed at how it looked basically identical to the last time I tried it. Seeing that, I just assumed it became abandonware. Does this fund raiser mean I was wrong, and the ap…

Half of HN complains every time a UI is updated; the other half complains when a UI hasn’t been updated.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Post by rkagerer »

stonesweep wrote: post #103
rkagerer wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been using Nine for ages and it's great*. How well does AquaMail work with Exchange / ActiveSync? (*My only real complaint about Nine is if I try to import more than a few months worth of email history into the local cache it slows to a crawl and starts breaking. I'd pay for an app that locally indexes a few tens of GB of email history and makes it instantly searchable.)

I'm afraid I've never used it with direct Activesync; my Exchange connection has always been EWS/OWA-based (whatever they call the web endpoint now in O365 hosted Exchange).

Thanks. Does it work well with EWS?
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