It is infuriating that Google's default action for these automated takedowns is to remove the app and ask the developer to upload a new build with a new package name , which means not keeping any of the existing users. It's happened to two of my clients in the past 6 months based on small infractions in the app metadata, but no issue with the app itself. In both cases the app was taken down with no advance notice, an…
I don't understand Google's App store play. Just another walled garden where things like this can happen. They were the champions of the open web for a long time. What happened?
Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats
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Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats
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Definitely. For example, MTBB's subtitles for Kimi no Na wa are very impressive. There's a short showcase of them on YouTube (spoilers): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_c-eKTisI0 It's a shame you basically cannot get anything close to the quality of fansubs from any commercial/legal options.
Probably because they are forced to use really shitty subbing formats for assisted text in some compliance format :| Edit: Are those baked into the video or did they just use the ASS format?
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#124I feel lots of the comments are polarized and don't take into the account the magnitude and difficulty of the problem at hand. Additionally, I wonder what the comments would be, if the opposite would have happened, an app with explicit content lands on the playstore. Are there any data available about the false positives false negatives etc. ?
I have a hunch that if Google actually wanted to fix the issue, they could afford to pay enough people enough money to find a solution. In the meantime, they're doing this.
(And no saying that App Store reviews are perfect by any stretch)
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Would you rather have your whole app suspended indefinitely from a random google's bot decision or have a human reviewing your update and possibly rejecting it ? From my last 3 rejections on iOS, they always provided me screenshots and I could discuss with the Apple reviewers. Same story for youtube (bots everywhere...), the only Google service where I could talk to human was Google Ads.
In this case it's not an indefinite suspension. The email said exactly what he needs to do to resolve the issue. I'd rather be in that situation because there would be something I could do to make progress, even if I didn't agree with the decision. In my case, I have no idea how long this is going to take - and I've seen horror stories on the Apple Developer forums of people being in review for months. It's also clea…
Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
Would you rather have your whole app suspended indefinitely from a random google's bot decision or have a human reviewing your update and possibly rejecting it ? From my last 3 rejections on iOS, they always provided me screenshots and I could discuss with the Apple reviewers. Same story for youtube (bots everywhere...), the only Google service where I could talk to human was Google Ads.
In this case it's not an indefinite suspension. The email said exactly what he needs to do to resolve the issue. I'd rather be in that situation because there would be something I could do to make progress, even if I didn't agree with the decision. In my case, I have no idea how long this is going to take - and I've seen horror stories on the Apple Developer forums of people being in review for months. It's also clea…
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Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats
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#128ASS subtitles are particularly popular in anime fansubbing as it allows for advanced typesetting. You can take it pretty far: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9AgMlHJe7Y
Potentially NSFW (heh this is kinda pointless atm). Also wow, I'm guessing you need to adjust the subtitle with every frame, old-school animation style?
Aegisub however has good automation support, and has (had?) a pretty active scripting community. Scripts can do a lot of stuff and often has simple dialog-box UIs. The base scripting support is in Lua, but a lot of scripts are written in a Lua variant called Moonscript. I've never seen it used anywhere else. And, as was mentioned in a sibling comment, there are scripts for importing motion-tracking files into Aegisub.
The ASS format lacks support for a bunch of stuff that people want to do, or the native support is deficient in some manner, so scripting is very important for Aegisub. For example, a line can be given a color gradient by make a one copy of the line for each shade in the gradient (this can be 100+ times). Each copy is then given a different color according to the gradient, and a \clip command is used on each line to only show a 1-2 pixel wide slice of each line. If all those slices are lined up properly and the lines are displayed simultaneously, it gives the impression of being a single line with a color gradient. Tricks like this can actually cause performance problems in rendering the subtitles!
I think this is an interesting little programming niche, but there isn't much complex typesetting being done these days. Tastes have changed, and due to licensed releases there's less need for fansubbing on all but the most niche titles.
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#129If there is enough of other people who are annoyed by this, can we please start doing something about this?
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I don't understand Google's App store play. Just another walled garden where things like this can happen. They were the champions of the open web for a long time. What happened?
> They were the champions of the open web for a long time. Because that's what you say when you're the underdog. Remember Apple's 1984 ad? Microsoft's "a computer on every desk"? The tech industry seems to support a rotating cast of monopolists riding atop whatever gate-keeping function emerges, each one holding on as long as it can until replaced by something that ends up looking a lot like the last top dog.
Corpo structure seems to have something to do with it, separate things into categories, then teams get categories and optimize locally without taking bigger picture into account (or even knowing what the picture is). Some regulations, maybe some pressures from some agencies about which they are not allowed to talk about. Etc.
But at some point I have to wonder about the mind of someone decisive in the company when "are we the baddies" question appears. Do they rationalize and think that "well, we need to do this because security botnets blahblah users have no idea what we are dealing with here and it's for their own good even if they don't understand it yada yada", or do they just don't give a shit. Or maybe it's like with me disliking my government - I definitely don't like it but I don't feel like fighting that giant machine at the moment, I can't do anything on my own, it would require cooperation and a plan and I have some stuff to do.