Small point to make but I wonder how things like these are integrated into a typical infantry structure? Are they a section, platoon or company level tool? Do they sit with the platoon commander? Having them with Corporals may make sense though
that may be too far forward and lose some benefits plus overload them in contact. At the same time they could be very useful in a number of scenarios. I read somewhere the US Marines are testing adding a systems operator to be beside the Signaller in Platon HQ.
Bug drone for UK army that weights 196g, has 40 mins autonomy and 2km range
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Re: Bug drone for UK army that weights 196g, has 40 mins autonomy and 2km range
#122Hmm...from a tech porn perspective it’s a cool little gadget. But given the shadow surveillance and police state that was erected post 9/11 and how often “national security” outfits have been caught playing fast and loose with the laws of the land, there is a good chance that bugs like this one will be eventually be used to illegally spy on domestic dissidents and whistleblowers. Governments in most western countries…
This is just ridiculous. Why if you were going to illegally spy on people would you use a highly visible and noisy drone when the vast majority of the population live in urban areas where CCTV cameras are common and phone lines conveniently run out to steel covers in the streets (and the entire population is carrying GPS enabled tracking devices full of security flaws?) There's "oh no our liberties" but that train ca…
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Re: Bug drone for UK army that weights 196g, has 40 mins autonomy and 2km range
#123Hmm...from a tech porn perspective it’s a cool little gadget. But given the shadow surveillance and police state that was erected post 9/11 and how often “national security” outfits have been caught playing fast and loose with the laws of the land, there is a good chance that bugs like this one will be eventually be used to illegally spy on domestic dissidents and whistleblowers. Governments in most western countries…
This is just ridiculous. Why if you were going to illegally spy on people would you use a highly visible and noisy drone when the vast majority of the population live in urban areas where CCTV cameras are common and phone lines conveniently run out to steel covers in the streets (and the entire population is carrying GPS enabled tracking devices full of security flaws?) There's "oh no our liberties" but that train ca…
It's not either-or.
Re: Bug drone for UK army that weights 196g, has 40 mins autonomy and 2km range
#124Is it just me, or does the pictured drone shell look 3d printed? There is for sure money to be made for any (ABCA based) company to sell minorly tweaked clones of popular consumer drones.
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#126I'd be super curious to know how loud they are, main problem I see with drones being stealthy is they also tend to be quite noisy.
These small drones are hard to hear and see when they fly high enough (say 200m)
but the camera is pointing forward so I don't think that it is their plan
Re: Bug drone for UK army that weights 196g, has 40 mins autonomy and 2km range
#127Hmm...from a tech porn perspective it’s a cool little gadget. But given the shadow surveillance and police state that was erected post 9/11 and how often “national security” outfits have been caught playing fast and loose with the laws of the land, there is a good chance that bugs like this one will be eventually be used to illegally spy on domestic dissidents and whistleblowers. Governments in most western countries…
It's basically a camo DJI Mini that probably costs fifty times as much.
Cute little drone, the Mini. I keep having to tell myself I don't need one.
Re: Bug drone for UK army that weights 196g, has 40 mins autonomy and 2km range
#128Hmm...from a tech porn perspective it’s a cool little gadget. But given the shadow surveillance and police state that was erected post 9/11 and how often “national security” outfits have been caught playing fast and loose with the laws of the land, there is a good chance that bugs like this one will be eventually be used to illegally spy on domestic dissidents and whistleblowers. Governments in most western countries…
Indeed. And while we're at it take things to their logical conclusion; seriously consider the implications of this tek + combined with 'AI' for not only navigation but for policing decisions.
When you remove the human element from policing, there is thus then no human empathy in the decision to use force ie- to arrest or kill, if that is the 'command' said AI internally commands itself to do.
Re: Bug drone for UK army that weights 196g, has 40 mins autonomy and 2km range
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you're fighting an opponent whose drones can only handle 40 mph winds, you might try to do as much combat at 50 mph as possible.
How many actual historical battles or skirmishes have been fought in gale force winds?
https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/rise-of-the-machines
"If you look at historical data, the vast majority of battle-winners used pre-modern weaponry"
"Thanks to the machine-learning algorithms, the robot apocalypse was short-lived"
Re: Bug drone for UK army that weights 196g, has 40 mins autonomy and 2km range
#130Hmm...from a tech porn perspective it’s a cool little gadget. But given the shadow surveillance and police state that was erected post 9/11 and how often “national security” outfits have been caught playing fast and loose with the laws of the land, there is a good chance that bugs like this one will be eventually be used to illegally spy on domestic dissidents and whistleblowers. Governments in most western countries…
>Governments in most western countries have thrown out habeas corpus and have given themselves the right to indefinitely ‘disappear’ anyone they arbitrarily deem a threat to national security. Julian Assange and Edward Snowden come to mind.
Neither of those seem to be examples of habeas corpus being thrown out. Neither were "disappeared" and the court systems were used against Assange and nothing has happened to Snowden as of yet except for the legal system being used to try to keep him from earning money from his book.