What they are doing to get into google search is not the problem, the problem is all their links are scams, clicking on pinterest google images link lands you on a login screen, or on a farm of similar/adjacent images. Nowhere do they have the content you were actually looking for. TLDR: they are gaming google
It is there— it usually just takes pages of scrolling. I heard a 2nd-hand account which said their product team leadership knows this annoys the hell out of people, know it's an easy fix, but they do it anyway. If that's true, I'd guess they're ignoring Goodhart's Law with their engagement metrics and need to re-focus on their UX, though I don't have any first-hand insight into it.
Not if you don't have Pininterest account. then you can't scroll more than half a page.
There's no intentional or manual effort at Google to promote pinterest. Pinterest shows up because they understand how the Google algorithm works and built their website to display all the signals that Google looks for in relevant image content. They understand user intent and generate URLs that present content in a way that google expects to see. Examples of how they do this from their engineering team: https://medi…
One big reason why Pinterest ranks so highly, and why you are seeing different tld's in the results, is because they have a variety of tld's that they use and those tld's all have separate crawl budgets from each other. So Google crawls Pinterest about an order of magnitude more than most other sites. You can read more about this here: https://medium.com/pinterest-engineering/how-switching-our-d... Source: I run a th…
I think others here have alluded this but the thing is that once, doing everything you need to do to get listed but actually being crap was enough to get you de-listed. The criteria wasn't "do what Google wants", the criteria was "be good and also help the algorithm determine that you're good".
Only running the right SEO wasn't sufficient then and I certain wish that criteria remained.
With Google featuring progressively more ads and Google content at the top of the results page, it's not clear if it's still in Google's self interest to give users the best results anymore.
This is why there's an aggressive firewall between the ads and search organizations. The ranking team isn't even aware of revenue numbers by ACL.
I'm sure the search team can, erm,google for the ad revenue figures in the earnings release.
After reading the anti trust filing it’s hard to argue Google is anything else but evil and a lot of what it does is to hide its monopoly.
User: This service has a problem and it's not working well. Programmer: There's nothing wrong with the service, you just have to use [magic incantation] to make it work right. I've been hoping for 20 years that this kind of exchange would stop happening. Still hoping! :-)
Google should be asking from a product perspective if they are providing the search results the user is most likely seeking. I seriously doubt that most pinterest results are what users are seeking. As such, Google probably should consider changes to their algorithm to compensate (cat and mouse) for pinterest's gaming. That is assuming how pinterest does it is not against any google rules... because if it were agains…
I think they can't do anything about it. Regulators and lawmakers in the US and EU would be very receptive to complaints from pinterest if google were to act somehow.
Do you have references for this? I'm genuinely curious if this kind of thing is actually being done. Google's altered it's algorithm to remove low quality sites in the past and if anti-trust worries are stopping that now, well, I can't even.
There's no intentional or manual effort at Google to promote pinterest. Pinterest shows up because they understand how the Google algorithm works and built their website to display all the signals that Google looks for in relevant image content. They understand user intent and generate URLs that present content in a way that google expects to see. Examples of how they do this from their engineering team: https://medi…
Google should be asking from a product perspective if they are providing the search results the user is most likely seeking. I seriously doubt that most pinterest results are what users are seeking. As such, Google probably should consider changes to their algorithm to compensate (cat and mouse) for pinterest's gaming. That is assuming how pinterest does it is not against any google rules... because if it were agains…
Yeah, Pinterest is almost always disappointing as a result: their account requirements are annoying and it tends to obfuscate the source of the image or information you’re looking for.
Google should be asking from a product perspective if they are providing the search results the user is most likely seeking. I seriously doubt that most pinterest results are what users are seeking. As such, Google probably should consider changes to their algorithm to compensate (cat and mouse) for pinterest's gaming. That is assuming how pinterest does it is not against any google rules... because if it were agains…
Stop using Google search. DDG works just as well
That's problem, DDG works nearly exactly the same (except a bit worse imo). DDG channels a lot of Bing, which virtually clones Google which makes it not much of an alternative at all.
One big reason why Pinterest ranks so highly, and why you are seeing different tld's in the results, is because they have a variety of tld's that they use and those tld's all have separate crawl budgets from each other. So Google crawls Pinterest about an order of magnitude more than most other sites. You can read more about this here: https://medium.com/pinterest-engineering/how-switching-our-d... Source: I run a th…
I think others here have alluded this but the thing is that once, doing everything you need to do to get listed but actually being crap was enough to get you de-listed. The criteria wasn't "do what Google wants", the criteria was "be good and also help the algorithm determine that you're good". Only running the right SEO wasn't sufficient then and I certain wish that criteria remained.
Who determines what is the best ranking? Who was defining what was "good"? There isn't some abstract, mathematically verifiable best ranking, a platonic ideal that all search engines should aspire to. Google has always made choices about how to rank that trade off the interests of various groups of users, from the very beginning. The complaints that you and I have about pinterest being ranked so highly come because Google has decided that our desires for how the results should look are not important enough compared to how other, perhaps larger, groups of users want them to look. Maybe Google deranks pinterest tomorrow, but they've made the choice to keep it as such for a couple years now. Whether it's because they think they have better ways to spend their time or because they like it the way it is, it's not really possible for us to know without somebody leaking that information. But, I imagine, there would be a group of people who would be as disappointed as we are elated if Google were to change this.