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Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

#121

Instagram DMs are also affected.

Who uses Instagram DMing btw?

I used igdm. Until I stopped using ig itself, several weeks ago. Like I did FB many, many years ago. I didn't close down the accounts either. I just stopped using them. Stopping that, and a good clear out of bookmarks [deleted], mail-subscriptions etc has forced me to restart my onlininess (save for very basic email). Feel much better, and I'd like to start the next year 'clean'.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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post #14

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How many people can you reach with WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, Messenger? How many people can you reach with SMS? Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/2365

> How many people can you reach with WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, Messenger? 99% of all the ones I care about to be honest. Maybe it's a function of me being an eastern-european expat living in London, but almost every here (Europe) uses WhatsApp.

Yeah WhatsApp is the complete norm in the US but almost no one uses it in the US.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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post #89

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Yes that was a defense. Explorer.exe and IE were intimately tied together. Remember “active desktop”? You could make your Windows desktop background a web page. Crazy times...

I wouldn't mind that, actually. I could create my own dashboard/background.

With Wallpaper Engine or similar programs you can still do it. It's no longer a Windows feature, but they have enough API surface to make it possible for other software to implement.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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I laughed at this because I thought the same thing. Conspiratorial or no, that line of argument won't fly. Saying everything is so integrated that it can't possibly be decentralized is basically proof of monopoly.

It would also be a hilarious argument to make after previously convincing the European Commission in 2014 that there is no technical way to integrate Facebook Messenger and WhatsApp user accounts. [0] [0] https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/pl/IP_17_...

> convincing the European Commission in 2014 that there is no technical way to integrate Facebook Messenger and WhatsApp user accounts.

What was the argument there? It's not like that's solving the halting problem.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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post #65

Whatsapp is extremely dominant in my country, but I keep encouraging friends and acquaintances to install Telegram. As far as I know, there won't be anything preventing FB from geoblocking European users when the company eventually gets in some serious trouble, like it just did in the US.

Why telegram and not signal?

Because few people care about privacy but many care about UI, UX & features. Telegram is better there than any other chat app by a susbstantial margin.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

#126
post #111

It's not only Facebook, a lot of services, Deezer, some operators in France... https://downdetector.fr/

Solar flare - Solar Cycle 25 is here https://news.ucar.edu/132771/new-sunspot-cycle-could-be-one-... https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/solar-cycle-25-is-here-na... The sun is awakening with ‘solar storms’ that could affect Earth - https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2020/12/08/solar-stor... A Powerful Solar Flare Produces Bright Northern Lights This Week - https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2020/12/09/a-powerf…

This has nothing to do with solar flares or cycles.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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post #108

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Correct, I'm referring to e2e. My personal trust model is not to trust the server.

Right, I understand. It's still encrypted, though, just not in a way that you like.

In the same way that FB, Whatsapp, and pretty much every other app works. I doubt there are any chat apps that don't encrypt between the client and server.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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post #111

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Solar flare - Solar Cycle 25 is here https://news.ucar.edu/132771/new-sunspot-cycle-could-be-one-... https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/solar-cycle-25-is-here-na... The sun is awakening with ‘solar storms’ that could affect Earth - https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2020/12/08/solar-stor... A Powerful Solar Flare Produces Bright Northern Lights This Week - https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2020/12/09/a-powerf…

This has nothing to do with solar flares or cycles.

Root Cause Analysis has determined that solar flares, which come from the Sun, are the reason any life exists on Earth. Without the sun, no technical evolution would have occurred and no outage in Facebook's infrastructure would have happened.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

#129
post #65

Whatsapp is extremely dominant in my country, but I keep encouraging friends and acquaintances to install Telegram. As far as I know, there won't be anything preventing FB from geoblocking European users when the company eventually gets in some serious trouble, like it just did in the US.

Why telegram and not signal?

why Signal and not wire? (no sim card needed), No need to allow access to your address book to make group chat. Works in browser, ios, android, desktop app. Using signal protocol. And you can draw in it.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

#130
post #111

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Solar flare - Solar Cycle 25 is here https://news.ucar.edu/132771/new-sunspot-cycle-could-be-one-... https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/solar-cycle-25-is-here-na... The sun is awakening with ‘solar storms’ that could affect Earth - https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2020/12/08/solar-stor... A Powerful Solar Flare Produces Bright Northern Lights This Week - https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2020/12/09/a-powerf…

This has nothing to do with solar flares or cycles.

> causing minor shortwave blackouts
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