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Hyundai to acquire Boston Dynamics

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Re: Hyundai to acquire Boston Dynamics

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Seems like this fits in well with Hyundai's autonomous car project Motional, which is also based in Boston. https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/11/21362322/hyundai-aptiv-mo...

Seems like this deal has more to do with automated manufacturing than it does with autonomous driving.

Re: Hyundai to acquire Boston Dynamics

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ITAR or even classified The robots are practically weapons. Imagine the 4-legged one chasing you down like a large cat could, then pouncing on you. Imagine the 2-legged one with armor, relentlessly stalking you like Terminator.

In my (somewhat limited) experience, I'd be surprised is Boston Dynamics robots are, wholesale, on the list of export control. ITAR classification isn't usually an arbitrary designation, there's typically some aspect in particular that falls under the designation. For example, non-binary source code in the robots could have the potential for export control, but almost certainly not the physical robot itself. As an ex…

"... the Inertial Navigation System they use while submerged has enough sensitivity to be export controlled."

To further your point, if the inertial navigation system has low limits for max acceleration and angular velocity (i.e. can't be put in a missile) then it can still be accurate enough for this task without ITAR restrictions.

Re: Hyundai to acquire Boston Dynamics

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Stock market is real, what's fake is all the modelling they do in excel.

Stock market is real for the few privileged insiders, the rest of us have modest profits or even loses that pay for someone else's profits.

Silliness. The market is effectively a free money machine for people who are capable of delaying gratification. The fact that most people are not capable of this is not the fault of the market.

And, for the record, the rich aren't getting better returns than the rest of us--the S&P beats the vast majority of Hedge Funds, year after year.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/15/active-fund-managers-trail-t...

Re: Hyundai to acquire Boston Dynamics

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ITAR or even classified The robots are practically weapons. Imagine the 4-legged one chasing you down like a large cat could, then pouncing on you. Imagine the 2-legged one with armor, relentlessly stalking you like Terminator.

BD robots could be easily defeated by a 50-cal bullet or an EMP or a sandstorm or merely by preventing them from recharging their batteries. Reality is not like the movies.

Uh oh. I don’t have access to any of those options. Where can I buy an EMP? Amazon?

Re: Hyundai to acquire Boston Dynamics

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Boston Dynamics is such a hyped company, yet it constantly gets shoveled from one mega corp to another...Does it mean none of those companies see a profitable future with it?

Developing walking robots when the wheel has been invented is not big business. Walking is good only for special purposes. Walking is not energy efficient. Their military mule looked cool, you rarely saw it doing anything that small wheeled unit could not do with better range and less maintenance.

Their new pivot towards wheeled logistic robots is acknowledgement of this fact. They still try to push probably unnecessary "legs with wheels" with Handle.

What robot revolution needs is nimble hands.

Re: Hyundai to acquire Boston Dynamics

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That's just software versus hardware. If you have a solid software platform you can scale it up to millions of users at very little operation cost per user. But a robot? You have a very significant cost per unit. Not to mention lots of risk if you have any warranties and for your brand. Like if you ship 100k units and they have a critical component that gives out after 2 months due to a bad manufacturing run that's a…

Then you have Tesla....

I don't remember Tesla having massive recalls, especially compared to other car manufacturers that had tons of those over the past years.

Re: Hyundai to acquire Boston Dynamics

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ITAR or even classified The robots are practically weapons. Imagine the 4-legged one chasing you down like a large cat could, then pouncing on you. Imagine the 2-legged one with armor, relentlessly stalking you like Terminator.

I'm far more worried about kamikaze drones with machine guns than I am about robot dogs. You can crank out 100 cheap and deadly flying drones for the cost of the smallest robot dog. The dog might be tougher, but it's much slower and easier to stop. I imagine in the not-so-near future there will be fleets of mini drones seeking out soft targets.

Machine guns are overly elaborate. A bunch of < $20 drones from Ali express with an explosive tied on would do it. You would not even need elaborate radio-jamming defeating control systems, they just need to fly straight until they hit something then a tilt sensor or timer detonates them. If it’s one thing we learned from myth busters, it’s how much damage the concussion wave from a surprisingly small blast can do to anyone nearby.

Re: Hyundai to acquire Boston Dynamics

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Stock market is real for the few privileged insiders, the rest of us have modest profits or even loses that pay for someone else's profits.

Silliness. The market is effectively a free money machine for people who are capable of delaying gratification. The fact that most people are not capable of this is not the fault of the market. And, for the record, the rich aren't getting better returns than the rest of us--the S&P beats the vast majority of Hedge Funds, year after year. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/15/active-fund-managers-trail-t...

Half of Americans own stocks at all, and the rich don't have all their money in hedge funds.

Re: Hyundai to acquire Boston Dynamics

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BD robots could be easily defeated by a 50-cal bullet or an EMP or a sandstorm or merely by preventing them from recharging their batteries. Reality is not like the movies.

Uh oh. I don’t have access to any of those options. Where can I buy an EMP? Amazon?

EMP weapons are quite difficult to build unless you have $100 and a modicum of engineering skill. And no, I won't google it for you because I like not being on the no-fly list.

Re: Hyundai to acquire Boston Dynamics

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stock market is real for the few privileged insiders, the rest of us have modest profits or even loses that pay for someone else's profits.

Silliness. The market is effectively a free money machine for people who are capable of delaying gratification. The fact that most people are not capable of this is not the fault of the market. And, for the record, the rich aren't getting better returns than the rest of us--the S&P beats the vast majority of Hedge Funds, year after year. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/15/active-fund-managers-trail-t...

Anyone who can consistently beat the market with the their process doesn't stay in the public investment game for long - why would they? They turn into self-funding private investment firms.
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