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CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream

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Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream

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How viable is CentOS Stream on the desktop? Fedora moves a bit too fast sometimes, but CentOS too slow.

CentOS Stream is going to move at the same pace as RHEL, just ahead of it.

What does that mean? That it is more up to date than RHEL? How far behind Fedora is that?

Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream

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Having a more "front runner" distro for RHEL (RedHat Enterprise) is great for RedHat. Since bugs will probably be caught in CentOS and don't end up in RHEL. This front runner role was actually intended for Fedora however Fedora contains way too much experimental changes for anyone to seriously try to run it on servers. I don't want to sound too "tin-foil headed" but I guess now that RedHat has hired the main CentOS d…

If they just want a free (beer) RHEL clone, the best choice might turn out to be ... Oracle Linux. Who would have thought?

> might turn out to be ... Oracle Linux

Is CentOS the upstream for Oracle Linux? Instead of which comes CentOS Stream and then the question is what will Oracle do? Would they even try to keep the old CentOS concept alive?

Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream

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So basically, instead of CentOS being as stable as RHEL, they're positioning it in between Fedora and RHEL stability. Basically the Debian Testing branch for RHEL. This is just a rebranding move to push businesses that were using CentOS to actually buy a RHEL license, lol.

Wait, RedHat owns CentOS?

Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream

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Wow. I kind of new this day was coming. I work in engineering / science (not comp. sci or developing) and all our software vendors are Windows or RHEL support only. Although if you know your way around linux any flavor will do, but RHEL is the "standard" for support. It's kind of like "insurance." We expect this to compile / work for RHEL and NOTHING else, because RHEL is stable, predictable, and boring. I've run mos…

I have been using openSUSE. It's been pretty stable on the laptop. On laptop, I use the Tumbleweed (rolling release) and 15.1 or 15.2 on servers. Give it a try.

What's the package management like? Does it support flatpaks? And what about LTS?

Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They've basically ceded the entire ecosystem to Canonical with this move and haven't realized it yet. And we're all worse off for it.

What about Debian? SUSE?

If all of your vendors are targeting Debian and/or SUSE for their software, consider yourself blessed.

Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream

#127

So basically, instead of CentOS being as stable as RHEL, they're positioning it in between Fedora and RHEL stability. Basically the Debian Testing branch for RHEL. This is just a rebranding move to push businesses that were using CentOS to actually buy a RHEL license, lol.

> Generally speaking, we expect CentOS Stream to have fewer bugs and more runtime features than RHEL until those packages make it into the RHEL release

So basically not what your comment is trying to imply here. Also, what is "lol" about it?

Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream

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post #124

So basically, instead of CentOS being as stable as RHEL, they're positioning it in between Fedora and RHEL stability. Basically the Debian Testing branch for RHEL. This is just a rebranding move to push businesses that were using CentOS to actually buy a RHEL license, lol.

Wait, RedHat owns CentOS?

Yes. https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2014-Janu...

Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream

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This is awful. It's proof of the downsides to the IBM acquisition, which I think we all knew was coming. Imagine if you were running a business, and deployed CentOS 8 based on the 10 year lifespan promise. You're totally screwed now, and Red Hat knows it. Why on earth didn't they make this switch starting with CentOS 9???? Let's not sugar coat this. They've betrayed their users. I personally run a CentOS 7 server (as…

The EL6 EOL was a bit over a week ago, meaning that likely a large number of people just migrated from EL6 to EL8 (skipping EL7).
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