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Please don't stop them, I really don't want to be forced to buy an Android phone.
You don't have to: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5
So a huge step backwards (it doesn't even have NFC) for principles I guess.
Falling Out of Love with Apple, Part 3: Content and Censorship
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#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, okay, it may be the case that our democracy is so crippled that it can’t protect basic consumer rights. But even so, what are we supposed to do? Quit our jobs, abandon our livelihoods, and take to the streets until our government decides we’re too much trouble and hands over power to a more consumer-friendly replacement government? Or just continue to want to use subscriptions through Apple where possible?
I don't know, perhaps vote for politicians that do have your rights and not corporation's rights at heart? Convince people that protecting their rights and livelihoods is not socialism or unamerican? I know that this is difficult in the US, both because there is so little choice in elections and it is difficult to convince other people to vote differently. But you can be sure that if everyone puts all their eggs in A…
Dude you're responding to someone in Belarus. Americans voting for nonsocialist candidates is not the issue there.
Re: Falling Out of Love with Apple, Part 3: Content and Censorship
#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree it's rather silly for an adult to have a strong emotional attachment to a corporation. I can understand a child feeling that way about the company behind their favourite products, but it seems unbecoming in adults. The best example might be Apple 'fanboys'. (I don't know of a gender-neutral term here. Fanboy implies an excess of appreciation, but fan means something weaker.) I don't see that it has much to do…
> The best example might be Apple 'fanboys'. Visit some investor forums and search for TSLA sometime. They make Apple fans look tame :) With that said, and it may be my own bias kicking in, Apple anti-fans seem way more passionate than fans. The anti-fan cannot understand why any rational person would ever use a product from Apple. All of the above completely pales in comparison to the best example of adult fanaticis…
That sounds about right. Sure there are exceptions but most Apple "fans" have just bought into the Apple ecosystem, generally like their stuff better than the alternatives for most purposes, upgrade now and then, and often buy new types of devices, even though they acknowledge that Apple whiffs now and then. I'd mostly even put Gruber in this category.
They mostly don't openly ridicule people who run Android, Linux, or Windows. Whereas, as you suggest, there's a definite subset of people who think and are happy to say they think anyone who buys Apple products has more money than sense and has clearly been brainwashed.
Re: Falling Out of Love with Apple, Part 3: Content and Censorship
#124I never in my life bought that amount of software compared to the App Store, it’s convenient and mostly safe. Apple paid revenue in the store is two times higher than Googles. I think this is directly correlated with convenience and safety.
It's also impossible to use (even for free apps) without IDing yourself, and your travel history (via IP geolocation), to Apple. The convenience comes at a cost.
On the user side without question, but ion the developer side this enormous convenience for the user is worth much more than 30 percent. This is not Marketing this 50% of your sales funnel.
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
Still, it's not some universal right given by the wonderful democratic utopia that GP claims to live on, is it?
Last time I checked everyone is free to ask for their help. Now if we are discussing that their support should be gratis, ok that is another matter.
The point is that - if we were to take seriously the claim that consumer rights are well protected by the governments outside of the US - their help shouldn't even be needed.
My feeling living in Germany is that consumer protection rights goes as far as the "right" for some bureaucrat to keep their job. It's a constant feeling they create the problem so that they can sell the solution and get people to be oh-so-thankful for it.
Re: Falling Out of Love with Apple, Part 3: Content and Censorship
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree it's rather silly for an adult to have a strong emotional attachment to a corporation. I can understand a child feeling that way about the company behind their favourite products, but it seems unbecoming in adults. The best example might be Apple 'fanboys'. (I don't know of a gender-neutral term here. Fanboy implies an excess of appreciation, but fan means something weaker.) I don't see that it has much to do…
Where does the word fan come from? My guess would be: fanatic.
It does but, as used, it means something much milder. You can be a "fan" of a band, say, without following them around from city to city.
Re: Falling Out of Love with Apple, Part 3: Content and Censorship
#127It's really not normal to be "in love" with a corporation to begin with....
Aren’t you just equivocating on the phrase “in love” though? In this context it just means a strong preference for products manufactured by a certain firm in a certain industry, which isn’t particularly abnormal.
"Falling out of love" still implies the kind of love you also fall into, I think. "Falling in love" has not yet been banalized to some mean some generic positive emotion like the word live itself unfortunately has.
I'm sad about the latter because we apparently lost the word to simply express this profound emotion without context.
Re: Falling Out of Love with Apple, Part 3: Content and Censorship
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> I want ALL my subscriptions to go through Apple Pay and App store. You do so only because you believe have no choice as you know that your democracy is so crippled that you don't expect them to protect your rights as a consumer any more! Where as many Europeans and Asians, who also enjoy democratic rights, will tell you openly that we would prefer that our democratically elected government protect our consumer righ…
Well, okay, it may be the case that our democracy is so crippled that it can’t protect basic consumer rights. But even so, what are we supposed to do? Quit our jobs, abandon our livelihoods, and take to the streets until our government decides we’re too much trouble and hands over power to a more consumer-friendly replacement government? Or just continue to want to use subscriptions through Apple where possible?
> But even so, what are we supposed to do?
You are to ask precicely this question and think up variations of it.
I was just pondering how easy we dedicate our lives to a thing in contrast with how unpopular dying for it is. It doesn't seem both can be right at the same time?
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#129As a passionate Apple hater their new chips didn't make me go 180 but I'm certainly looking over my shoulder. I'm not going to lock myself into any prison but the idea it could be cosy enough to sign up is entirely new to me.
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>My layman understanding was Epic had to do this to be able to legally challenge Apple in court This is obviously false because there are other antitrust cases against Apple pending.
That's Government v. Apple, not Epic v. Apple. Furthermore, irrespective of what the outcome of Epic v. Apple is, more people are paying attention to Apple's behavior and the rouse may eventually bear fruit (in the form of more Government v. Apple).
Blix v. Apple[0] pre-dated the Epic v. Apple suit by about 8 months.
[0]: https://download.bluemail.me/docs/01869-Blix-Amended-Complai... (PDF)