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Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by mfkp »

zaxcellent wrote: post #93
wfleming wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lenovo is selling several of the new T series Thinkpads with Ryzen chips. IHMO something like the T14s is pretty comparable to an XPS, but I don't know what your evaluation criteria are, and I have a personal preference for Thinkpads, so I'm biased.

I just got my T14s that I customized with 32GB, Ryzen 4750u (8c/16t), and the 400nit display (sadly lost the display lottery, but I didn't notice until I checked the part#). However, it took 60+ days to ship as I ordered it Sep 1st. I suppose the shortage of the Ryzen chips mean long delays for Lenovo laptops which are customized as opposed to the preconfigured variants. All of the preconfigured ones had the 250nit s…

I just received my similarly spec'd T14s AMD yesterday. I opted for the low power, high NIT screen as well. How do you check if you got a good screen?

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by selykg »

pdpi wrote: post #104
asdfasgasdgasdg wrote: post #95

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Good problem to have from the perspective of AMD shareholders.

Both Sony and Microsoft were on a PowerPC base for the PS3/Xbox360 generation. Sony was on a MIPS before that. While there's definitely value in knowing you basically own the console market for the next few years, consoles have a much easier time jumping ship on architectures than PCs do, so having such a large portion of your revenue tied to two customers, both of whom are capable of jumping ship quite easily on the…

I think that's a bit LESS likely now that gamers are "demanding" backwards compatibility. While not entirely unfeasible, it's a lot more feasible to simply stick with what they have been using to make that process easier.

So my opinion, as a gamer and not much else, is simply that it feels like it's easier to stick with x86 at this point.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by mfkp »

katsura wrote: post #59
wfleming wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lenovo is selling several of the new T series Thinkpads with Ryzen chips. IHMO something like the T14s is pretty comparable to an XPS, but I don't know what your evaluation criteria are, and I have a personal preference for Thinkpads, so I'm biased.

Thanks for the suggestion, I'm looking at those, but it looks like they have 8 gigs of soldered RAM. I'd like my next laptop to be a bit more futureproof than that, especially with all the electron apps popping everywhere. My current laptop is 7 years old with 8 gigs of RAM, and sometimes it has to swap and starts choking up, when I try to open too many things at once.

You can upgrade it to 32gb, but it's soldered and non-upgradable unlike the regular T14.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by chungus_khan »

fmajid wrote: post #105
toopok4k3 wrote: post #99

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Do you actually get real RoI on that thing? Must have cost magnitudes more than normal desktop hardware. Or is this where you just accept that it's worth it purely for tingling the geek inside you?

A faster compiling machine is the difference between sustaining a state of flow critical to developer productivity, or not. Paying even $5000 for a desktop that yields probably a 2x improvement in productivity for someone paid at least $10K a month is a total no-brainer.

I think 2x improvement in productivity is a pretty optimistic number unless you don't write much code and mostly just compile it. In heavier workloads there certainly can be decent ROI though.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by kllrnohj »

fastest963 wrote: post #71
wlesieutre wrote: post #58

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What's the benefit of Thunderbolt displays? I think it's far more common to just do DisplayPort on USB-C alternate mode, or for slightly more specialized screens, the USB-C ones with power delivery. Thunderbolt screens are really unusual in my experience. It's an understandable restriction if you already bought a Thunderbolt screen and need a new computer that's compatible with it, but requiring Thunderbolt case I mi…

I have a dock with two 4k 60hz DisplayPort monitors that runs off TB3. Afaik that's not possible over USB.

TB3's display output is just displayport. Identical to displayport over USB-C.

You're only giving up the data part of TB3.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by dathinab »

pmarreck wrote: post #78

AMD and ARM are both eating Intel's lunch lately

It's a bit of nit-picking but I would say AMD and Apple.

The M1 is a Apple chip not and ARM chip. Sure it uses ARM IPs including the ARM instruction set. But it doesn't really use the ARM provided IP-cores as far as I know. So the M1 is ARM in the sense that AMD chips are x86 ;=)

This seems to be a pointless differentiation but the M1 chips are inherently different from other ARM ISA using chips using ARM IP-cores. Probably the main difference is that they have special hardware support for x86 emulation allowing fast x86 emulation on a ARM ISA CPU which is normally not possible otherwise.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by buzzerbetrayed »

cillian64 wrote: post #115
eloff wrote: post #3

What sales, they hardly had any stock available. I've been trying since the release to get my hands on a Ryzen 5900x and they're sold out everywhere. I'm trying to get on a waiting list for it now, fingers crossed that they can deliver before the new year.

The fact that these products are out of stock everywhere implies more sales than if they were sitting on shelves.

Or low supply. The RTX 3080 is impossible to find, but not because they have high sales. They just haven't made very many of them.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by kllrnohj »

Retric wrote: post #97
kllrnohj wrote: post #94

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How about just dual any monitors? The GT 1030 only has a single HDMI 2.0B port and DVI which I haven't seen on a recent monitor in a while now. So 1 monitor connection from the last 10 years. And no display port connections, which is just wtf.

Even cheap 4K monitors like Samsung UR55 (260$) can handle DVI. You can go DVI to HDMI with either a 5$ adapter or a single DVI to HDMI cable. Only real difference is DVI doesn’t carry sound, but as long as one monitor has sound that’s irrelevant.

No it doesn't:

"Number of DVI inputs 0" ( https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-ur55-series-28-ips-4k-u... )

And the GT 1030 is only single-link DVI, not dual-link, so you can't even drive 2560x1600 with it.

So it tops out at 2x 1080p monitors (or 1 high-res + 1 1080p secondary, whatever). Literally worse than GPUs from 10 years ago. Which since all I want a GT 1030 for is to drive monitors makes no sense at all.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by usrusr »

fmajid wrote: post #105
toopok4k3 wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you actually get real RoI on that thing? Must have cost magnitudes more than normal desktop hardware. Or is this where you just accept that it's worth it purely for tingling the geek inside you?

A faster compiling machine is the difference between sustaining a state of flow critical to developer productivity, or not. Paying even $5000 for a desktop that yields probably a 2x improvement in productivity for someone paid at least $10K a month is a total no-brainer.

Compile time impact is a very non-linear thing. There's a narrow band that could be called the distraction threshold. An investment in faster hardware will give very small returns if you are already below that range and only moderate returns when so far above that the investments only gets you a little closer. But when the speedup crosses that narrow band or at least significant parts of it, it's a night and day difference.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by bayindirh »

eloff wrote: post #3

What sales, they hardly had any stock available. I've been trying since the release to get my hands on a Ryzen 5900x and they're sold out everywhere. I'm trying to get on a waiting list for it now, fingers crossed that they can deliver before the new year.

> What sales, they hardly had any stock available.

Some people gave the same reaction when there were no EPYC processors available when they were first announced.

Then we've learned that almost all of the production has ended in Google's, Dropbox's and other big tech's data centers. :)

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