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Re: Monica: Personal CRM. Remember everything about your friends, family and etc.

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> There's a (repeating) notion in this thread that keeping up with people is somehow linked to how much you care about them. I care deeply about many people I meet, personally, but I don't think the two are necessarily correlated. I wholeheartedly agree. There’s a similar resistance towards books like “How to win friends...”, like you’re a sleazy car salesman for trying to improve your social skills. It’s like harpin…

for some reason you omitted the sleazier half of the title "...and influence people". Improving social skills and using them manipulatively are entirely different things. If you've ever known or worked with psychopaths you'll get that immediately. I suppose there's a continuum but still.

I don't agree. Influencing and social skills cannot be dissociated. Making friends is the process of making a person like you, which seems to fall under the definition of influence.

As many things, influencing people isn't inherently bad, but depends on how and why.

Re: Monica: Personal CRM. Remember everything about your friends, family and etc.

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I left social media about 6 months ago. I don't regret it at all but I do find that keeping up to date with people outside my inner circle is harder. Previously I could send someone a message based on something I'd seen in their Instagram story but now I have to consciously remind myself to message people. Making and maintaining adult relationships is hard.

Re: Monica: Personal CRM. Remember everything about your friends, family and etc.

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Not sure if this was already argued elsewhere as I understand that monica gets posted here frequently, but on the readme: > This project is for people who have hard time remembering details about other people's lives - especially the ones they care about. My argument is, if you actually cared for someone, wouldn't you take the effort to remember everything about them, rather than saving it in a social relationship da…

Please be aware that not everyone has the same capacity for memory about personal details as you. Not everyone using this tool is necessarily recording 1000 different details. Maybe they are just writing information about the 10 people they care about?

Re: Monica: Personal CRM. Remember everything about your friends, family and etc.

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Recently I've noticed the discrepancy in management of one's business relations and personal relations. You could argue that the latter is more important, but it has nowhere near the multitude of tools and solutions of former. It is nice that Monica tries to fix this.

Re: Monica: Personal CRM. Remember everything about your friends, family and etc.

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I'd love something like this packaged as an offline only desktop app. I can't trust any third party to protect such personal data about myself and the people I care about. I suppose there's the option of self-hosting and allowing only localhost...

It is funny, because my app https://contactcache.com started like that. It was an Electron app working completely locally. Gradually I moved to a web app that can work locally in the browser, as long as the browser doesn't delete the local storage.

Re: Monica: Personal CRM. Remember everything about your friends, family and etc.

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post #81

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You aren’t kidding. A 13 question survey AND a 15 minute call to review the app before I can sign up? Plus, there are no available times to call in December. Yeesh.

Founder of Dex here! Apologies for the involved flow + being booked through December. Since everyone manages relationships differently, we've found it a valuable step for our new users. ('do things that don't scale'). If you send me a note (you'll have my email from completing the survey), also happy to send self-service instructions as well.

Valuable step for new users that complete it. Not too valuable for anyone that just walks away.

Re: Monica: Personal CRM. Remember everything about your friends, family and etc.

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It is legal to put my European friends in there, considering GDPR?

The GDPR doesn't apply to personal usage of data - only if you're using the data in the course of operating a business.

> In the case of personal or household activities, the Information Commissioner’s Office in the UK outlines the exemption as being the processing of personal data in the course of a ‘purely’ personal or household activity, with “no connection to a professional or commercial activity”

(source: https://www.hutsix.io/does-gdpr-apply-to-individuals/)

Re: Monica: Personal CRM. Remember everything about your friends, family and etc.

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post #110

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> There's a (repeating) notion in this thread that keeping up with people is somehow linked to how much you care about them. I care deeply about many people I meet, personally, but I don't think the two are necessarily correlated. I wholeheartedly agree. There’s a similar resistance towards books like “How to win friends...”, like you’re a sleazy car salesman for trying to improve your social skills. It’s like harpin…

I think the resistance towards that particular book is because the full title is "How to win friends and influence people". The last part in particular is what makes it sound sleazy. It would be very different if the book had just been called "How to make friends".

The book was published in 1936. I think the meaning of the word “influence” has evolved to mean something more sinister than what the book is about.

Re: Monica: Personal CRM. Remember everything about your friends, family and etc.

#130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There's a (repeating) notion in this thread that keeping up with people is somehow linked to how much you care about them. I care deeply about many people I meet, personally, but I don't think the two are necessarily correlated. I wholeheartedly agree. There’s a similar resistance towards books like “How to win friends...”, like you’re a sleazy car salesman for trying to improve your social skills. It’s like harpin…

for some reason you omitted the sleazier half of the title "...and influence people". Improving social skills and using them manipulatively are entirely different things. If you've ever known or worked with psychopaths you'll get that immediately. I suppose there's a continuum but still.

Have you read the book? It’s very far from being sleazy or manipulative, but rather a guide to what people tend to think are agreeable qualities.
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