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Re: Wyze $20 Smart Watch

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Post by slezyr »

jerlam wrote: post #85

Smartwatches have fallen so far from their peak. In 2015, Pebble had a watch that had: - an app store, third party apps, third party watch faces, and a developer ecosystem - always on screen that didn't require a button press or specific arm gesture, and worked in bright, normally lit conditions - physical buttons instead of tiny buttons on a tiny screen barely larger than the finger pressing it - week long battery l…

PineTime is the only watch that is cheap and can be programmable. However, it's software isn't mature enough for daily use.

https://pine64.com/product/pinetime-dev-kit/?v=0446c16e2e66

Re: Wyze $20 Smart Watch

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Post by tssva »

ljf wrote: post #11
jnurmine wrote: post #7

Interesting, but they ship only to the US, which is a deal breaker for me. Would've ordered.

Similar here. I hadn't heard of them before but took a look at their site and am impressed by the range. If they shopped to the UK I'd be buying a few bits for sure. Similar prices to xiaomi etc but their apps look good. (though the xiaomi apps are pretty good too)

In some cases their hardware is xiaomi hardware. Their model is to utilize existing low cost hardware but run their own custom firmware on it. This is how they have grown their product range so quickly.

Re: Wyze $20 Smart Watch

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Post by microtherion »

dmje wrote: post #74

I see no way anyone could make this bit of hardware this cheaply without some pretty nasty exploitation going on somewhere up the chain. Count me out.

You might be surprised at how human ingenuity sometimes finds a way to make expensive hardware using just as much exploitation…

Re: Wyze $20 Smart Watch

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Post by VectorLock »

ce4 wrote: post #93
modeless wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't forget: 7.5mm thick (for the round version). There is nothing on the market even close. I wore mine until last month when the battery gave out. If I could buy one with a new battery (not a replaced one as it compromises the waterproofing) I'd choose it over any other option available today.

Look for devices supported by the gadgetbridge 3rd party app (found in android's f-droid store). I have an Amazfit Bip S lite. 45days battery, always on lcd. Custom notification filters by gadgetbridge. Great https://codeberg.org/Freeyourgadget/Gadgetbridge

Man never heard of this Gadgetbridge thing. Thanks for bringing it up. The awful apps are the worst part about these kind of Chinesium devices.

Re: Wyze $20 Smart Watch

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Post by robocat »

breck wrote: post #111
robocat wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here’s the income distribution per household from the last census: https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/visualizat... There are a lot of people that can’t spend $200 on a watch, but can spend $20.

That's a good point. U.S. per capita healthcare spending is $11,172. If the U.S. gave everyone a $200 a year tax credit to spend on a smart health watch, we'd probably save $2,000 a year per capita and get a 10x ROI.

Most healthcare costs are at the end of our life, and we all die and often spend all we have, so the costs are fairly invariant i.e. you can never “save” $2k.

The ROI for better health is very odd to measure.

If you use dollars (for an economy) then the best ROI is to spend nothing once someone is of no economic benefit (i.e. the vast majority of healthcare spending is on the elderly and provides no dollar benefit to society, so economically most healthcare spending should be drastically cut).

You could also look at an integral of quality of life over time. However “past me” is really bad at caring about “future me”, and “current me” doesn’t care at all about optimising for “past me”.

Most people seem happy to argue that the amount that society should spend on them (or their loved ones) for health services is infinite (you can’t put a price on life), and the amount they should spend on the health services for others should be zero (those scabs should have made better life choices!)

Good luck trying to make sense out of spending $20 to save $2000!

Re: Wyze $20 Smart Watch

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Post by abawany »

breck wrote: post #116
ghaff wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone using a FitBit as part of shifting to a healthier lifestyle may result in better health outcomes (and presumably lower costs) but there's no " will save thousands on annual healthcare bills" about it. Certainly just wearing a FitBit has zero effect on health if you don't do anything based on the collected data.

> Certainly just wearing a FitBit has zero effect on health if you don't do anything based on the collected data. Surprisingly, even this I disagree with. Simply buying one nudges the healthcare world to a more data driven place, and simply wearing one provides data and feedback to the ecosystem that will have a positive value. That being said, yeah you should look at the data if you personally want to benefit.

I attribute my Garmin Vivoactive HR to pushing me from chronic sitting to being reasonably active and its heart-rate monitoring alerts for letting me know when something was off. I agree with you that spending money to get a good device is worth it, especially since my Garmin has lasted me 4 years without issues.

Re: Wyze $20 Smart Watch

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Post by Twirrim »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #112
jerlam wrote: post #85

Smartwatches have fallen so far from their peak. In 2015, Pebble had a watch that had: - an app store, third party apps, third party watch faces, and a developer ecosystem - always on screen that didn't require a button press or specific arm gesture, and worked in bright, normally lit conditions - physical buttons instead of tiny buttons on a tiny screen barely larger than the finger pressing it - week long battery l…

You can get most of the Pebble features you listed on the Amazfit Bip and Gadgetbridge. It's not perfect, but it's the closest thing to what the Pebble used to be. See this thread from below here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25269500

I like my Amazfit Bip, but the integration is no where near as smooth as Pebble was. I only stopped using my Pebble because I had the first gen screen corruption issues. By the time they were getting to be an issue, the writing was on the wall for them.

Re: Wyze $20 Smart Watch

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Post by abawany »

altarius wrote: post #73
vmception wrote: post #47

> * Wyze Watch is not a medical device, and it is not intended to be used for medical purposes. How do we change reality to get these dumbass disclaimers out the way for perfectly functioning devices? Get FDA certification faster? Change safe harbors on liability that dont require cover-your-ass text that contradicts the point of including certain functionality? Get FDA out of the consumer medical device gatekeeping…

How do we know these are perfectly functioning devices? The average person wouldn't read studies and documentation or ascertain the quality - I barely can and check HN comments for many medical studies :) FDA approval is a very strong signal at least. I'd rather avoid the supplements situation where manufacturers can essentially claim almost anything and most of the population isn't aware that it's a free-for-all. Ma…

I like this person's rather thorough reviews of device accuracy: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChNWxrTlmh4IRSevon1X93g but you are right, the ambiguity is bothersome.

Re: Wyze $20 Smart Watch

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Post by bllguo »

jerlam wrote: post #85

Smartwatches have fallen so far from their peak. In 2015, Pebble had a watch that had: - an app store, third party apps, third party watch faces, and a developer ecosystem - always on screen that didn't require a button press or specific arm gesture, and worked in bright, normally lit conditions - physical buttons instead of tiny buttons on a tiny screen barely larger than the finger pressing it - week long battery l…

seriously - it's been _years_, it should only be easier to get to pebble's level (if not surpass it)

anecdotally, in my life I've seen maybe enough apple watches to count on one hand? and a few fitbits. That's it. A far cry from what I expected the future to be like, back when pebble was getting hype and when apple announced their offering. What is the problem with the market? is there really just no demand for smartwatches of any kind?

Re: Wyze $20 Smart Watch

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Post by abawany »

miguelrochefort wrote: post #2

I often wonder how Wyze makes any money. They're usually 2-10 times cheaper than their competitors, while providing better features, better design, and better support. I love all of my Wyze devices and purchased another $100 worth of them just yesterday (3 bulbs, 2 sockets, 3 sensors, 1 camera, 1 SD card). I like how they go out of their way to add features to their devices. For example, they provide a firmware for t…

Quality can sometimes be a bit iffy (my motion sensor and door open sensors failed) and now the useful camera event alerts are behind a (small) monthly fee.
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