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Shared404 wrote: post #62

bnchrch wrote: post #45

Ahh let the bikeshedding continue. In these situations all I want to say is "Who cares". Optimization matters when it actually solves a problem, before that it's just wasted effort. I don't hear the general public yelling from the rooftops "The web is too slow! Developers are building too fast! I wish we could go backwards!"

> In these situations all I want to say is "Who cares". This list has a second hidden benefit: Typically, I find that those who have very lightweight pages have more interesting things to say. That being said, that's not a hard and fast rule, as I both have a lightweight page, and not much that's interesting to say.

Agreed. Not a general rule but as a rule of thumb it works very well.

Re: 1MB Club

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Post by jamil7 » Thu, Nov 19, 2020, 8:17 PM UTC

bnchrch wrote: post #45

Ahh let the bikeshedding continue. In these situations all I want to say is "Who cares". Optimization matters when it actually solves a problem, before that it's just wasted effort. I don't hear the general public yelling from the rooftops "The web is too slow! Developers are building too fast! I wish we could go backwards!"

Thats because you're not listening to them.

Re: 1MB Club

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Post by m90 » Thu, Nov 19, 2020, 8:17 PM UTC

Stylistic nitpick: don't use the word cancerous for things that don't make too much of a difference for anything but your "ethos". Real cancer has people die (animals too). Bloated websites might be annoying, but you will survive them even if your the 1337est hacker around.

Re: 1MB Club

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Post by vulcan01 » Thu, Nov 19, 2020, 8:18 PM UTC

jyriand wrote: post #80

syassami wrote: post #53

My personal fav: 148kb, $530B company. https://www.berkshirehathaway.com

Just for your information, from their legal page: "...linking to this website without written permission is prohibited." Not sure what is meant by this, but I found it funny.

IANAL

What I think they mean by this is that you shouldn't link to resources on their website to make it seem like they endorse your (product, website, whatever).

Re: 1MB Club

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Post by ChuckMcM » Thu, Nov 19, 2020, 8:19 PM UTC

aresant wrote: post #58

From a "Why, who cares" perspective website (and app) speed are highly correlated with conversion and engagement. Google's headline research on the subject says "Improving your load time by 0.1s can boost conversion rates by 8%." Some add'l data, sourced by Neilsen Group below: - Google found that increasing the load time of its SERPs by half a second resulted in a 20% higher bounce rate. - Google found 53% of mobile…

If nobody cares, why did Google invest so much in amp ?

Re: 1MB Club

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Post by javierbyte » Thu, Nov 19, 2020, 8:22 PM UTC

I hate how people have to use "cancerous" everywhere. Out of respect please use a different word.

Re: 1MB Club

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Post by frogpelt » Thu, Nov 19, 2020, 8:22 PM UTC

syassami wrote: post #53

My personal fav: 148kb, $530B company. https://www.berkshirehathaway.com

That's not completely fair since they are an investment holding company.

How about you average their subsidiary web pages? Start with DQ.com (Dairy Queen)

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Post by highmastdon » Thu, Nov 19, 2020, 8:23 PM UTC

yellowapple wrote: post #92

I love it! I feel like the 1MB limit is excessively generous, especially for text-only pages. But maybe that's what makes it so damning when pages fail to adhere to it. I know at least one website I maintain fails it spectacularly (though in my defense it's entirely because of that website being chock-full of photos, and full-res ones at that; pages without those are well under that 1MB mark), while other sites I've…

Don’t forget that also 1MB of JavaScript is much much more heavy on the client than 1MB image