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Re: Beirut Port Explosion

#121

I wish they provided references to all media they used: - YouTube links - links to twitter media - timestamps for all the screenshots - (best) zip of all media files on archive.org

RTFA. There's a direct link to the media, and also a link to their github where there's an xlsx with links the original sources.

Re: Beirut Port Explosion

#122
post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure if this is mildly better or severely worse

Definitely better. Facebook won't make you disappear.

Facebook, willingly or not, is part of the same entities' sourcing and influencing activities. We know this as established fact. Both your side's and various multipolar others.

Re: Beirut Port Explosion

#124

This is incredible and I can only imagine how much time this took to create. Definitely also worth taking a look at their previous investigations at https://forensic-architecture.org/ .

This one is particularly relevant to goings on in the US recently:

https://forensic-architecture.org/investigation/police-bruta...

Re: Beirut Port Explosion

#125
post #31
post #26

In the past this kind of material would be collected and analyzed by state intelligence services. Combined by allies and used to gain leverage for individual or combined strategic priorities. Something like, “Here is how negligent you were. Install this person in power or we leak this and your people revolt and you won’t be able to walk away.” More recently, it seems, some news organizations have begun assembling rep…

Similarly we've gone from the CIA/FBI being "big brother" to social media companies filling the role.

Why the hyperbole? "Big Brother" can disappear you into the night, never to be seen again till someone unearths a mass grave many decades later. Social media has no such power.

Re: Beirut Port Explosion

#126
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Similarly we've gone from the CIA/FBI being "big brother" to social media companies filling the role.

Why the hyperbole? "Big Brother" can disappear you into the night, never to be seen again till someone unearths a mass grave many decades later. Social media has no such power.

You think so? Get the right campaign, the right urgency, and you can embolden people to do anything you want because they think it is right.

Re: Beirut Port Explosion

#128
post #79

From a laymen's perspective, it's hard to imagine just how negligent the port authorities could have been in managing the warehouse. 2750tons high-explosive Ammonium Nitrate? Check. 50tons Ammonium Phosphate? Check. Stacks of flammable wooden pallets among Ammonium Nitrate? Check. 1000 flammable rubber car tires? Check. 23tons of explosive fireworks? 5 rolls of detonator cord? Check. I mean... how/why?

If I remember correctly the negligent ones were judges.

Re: Beirut Port Explosion

#129
From the video:

  5:38 [5:54pm] as reported by media outlets, the fire brigade arrived approximately 4 minutes after initial call was made to the station, at 5:54pm
  4:48 [5:56pm] ..from this point at about 5:56pm the temperature inside the warehouse start to rising rapidly..
  5:15 [5:59pm] the sound o fireworks start being heard, approximately 5:59pm, [titles over the gates: 'Closed Closed Closed'] it shows that many windows and doors are shut, according to the experts, confinement creates hotspots, areas of high temperature in which ammonium nitrate can get close to its combustion point 
  2:31 [6:07:44pm] .. small explosive charges as fireworks.. 
  2:50 [6:08:18pm] single point explosion
Does it mean that the fire brigade could have chances to survive ?

- if they open all the big gates soon after they come, making an airflow and avoiding confinement:

  would 'the temperature inside the warehouse start to rising rapidly' as well and
  would it make the situation [in this case/in theory] better  ('confinement creates hotspots') or worse (more oxygen) ?
- if it could help (in this specific situation?), what was needed to make such decision ?

What was the best they could do, and what when having full situation awareness (run away ??) ?

Re: Beirut Port Explosion

#130

I wish they provided references to all media they used: - YouTube links - links to twitter media - timestamps for all the screenshots - (best) zip of all media files on archive.org

RTFA. There's a direct link to the media, and also a link to their github where there's an xlsx with links the original sources.

I RTFA. The direct link to media only contains snapshots of the video sources, not the videos themselves. The xlsx was added 1 hour after my comment was written, so I guess thanks are in order!
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