> They also found that when they made a cup out of the stuff and filled it with water heated almost to boiling point, the cup remained intact for more than two hours. Though this is not as long as a plastic cup would last (it would survive indefinitely) it is long enough for all practical purposes. Err, no. A disposable cup that leaks after 2 hours is a horrible product. Disposable cups are at their most useful in th…
We need more environmental tech, but we also have to adapt our behaviour a little bit. How can you make something that is degradable in an environmental friendly way, but also last forever? Something has to give.
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Should cars have a coffee tank? Imagine pouring coffee at a stop just like petrol and have dispenser somewhere near driving seat with a mouthpiece.
A Mercedes-Benz Keurig partnership perhaps.
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#123Has anyone successfuly quit coffee? I quit cigarettes, alcohol but tried many times to quit coffee and just can't. I feel so terrible it feels it gets worse every day I don't drink, then a little cup of espresso fixes everything.
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#125Currently purchasing a full plastics thermoforming line. Not a chemist, but AFAIK current market available 'biostarch polymers' (AFAIK always PLA; which may be marketed as made from corn, sugar cane, etc.) are actually extremely environmentally unfriendly because of the massive embodied energy required to create the industry-ready polymer from the bio-waste material. Their single benefit is nominal biodegradability.…
Also not a chemist, but this is reminiscent of "bamboo" fabric that is just Rayon made from bamboo cellulose instead of wood pulp cellulose.
As such, it can be a bit more environmentally friendly to produce, and amenable to production in a closed-loop facility, but isn't any more recyclable or biodegradable:
Eg. From 'Abundance of microplastics in the world's deep seas'[0]:
"Rayon -- a humanmade non-plastic polymer used in personal hygiene products and clothing -- contributed to 56.9% of the total fibres seen, with polyester, polyamides, acetate and acrylic among the others recorded."
Which isn't at all the same thing as fabrics made from actual bamboo fibers (often called 'bamboo linen').
The whole 'greenwashing' thing is super annoying to me, because even when regulating agencies are doing their job properly, so much wiggle-room is left for what marketers are allowed to imply with entirely true statements.
eg. The label lists the fiber content as 'bamboo rayon', and the marketing says "made from environmentally friendly and biodegradable bamboo!", Which glosses over that the process used to turn the bamboo INTO rayon may not have been environmentally friendly, or that while rayon is biodegradable, sort of, if it's in a landfill it's going to stick around a long time.
And then I try to imagine consumer labelling requirements for all materials, sources, methods, and lifecycles, or summarizing these into a simple environmental score, and despair.
[0] https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/12/141216212253.h...
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At least here in Norway it would be very unusual for a coffee cup to be left in the car and anyway many of those who do drink a lot of coffee on the go use a reusable cup bought from a petrol station that gives you a year of 'free' coffee. See https://www.circlek.no/koppen for instance.
That's pretty cool. How much is that? "Costa Coffee" (a UK chain) machines are in lots of petrol stations nowadays, but I'm not aware of any kind of subscription.