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This Covid vaccine was created by a German company founded by the children of Turkish immigrants. In this time of open racism and public hostility to immigration, this needs to be pointed out and repeated. It was children of Turkish immigrants to Germany.
I'm so proud of this as a turk living in EU.
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I feel like there’s a threshold for fame that needs to be met for giving credit in the English-language, mainstream media. A famous name like Stephen Hawking would get directly credited for a result. A less famous researcher’s result would get credited to their school (eg MIT). Outside of well known western names and institutions, the result would get credited to the country (eg China or Japan). The exception is unde…
This has to be called some kind of effect which is probably already on Wikipedia.
“eminent scientists will often get more credit than a comparatively unknown researcher, even if their work is similar; it also means that credit will usually be given to researchers who are already famous”
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BioNTech is different from a small biotech that can only produce drug candidates. They have their own advanced manufacturing plant and can take it end to end. Their US branch, which my wife is a part of, has all the in-house expertise needed to take a cancer therapy or vaccine to market in the US, just like Moderna does. If I’m not mistaken the reason for the partnership is the sheer size of the clinical trials neede…
I didn't know they had manufacturing capabilities. Looking at their manufacturing page, they do have GMP manufacturing facilities, but it looks like they were built around their oncology pipeline, which would be customized for each patient and low volume (as you mentioned). https://biontech.de/how-we-translate/manufacturing And unless I'm mistaken, they don't have any approved products on market? No doubt they have e…
But from my perspective the regulatory process is a lot easier to navigate than the supply chain. Even if you get through all the trials, manufacturing a billion doses and distributing them across a supply chain is a special kind of hard that only companies like Pfizer can handle.
So while BioNTech doesn't need help bringing an oncology therapy to market (it just takes time because cancer is hard), it needs a company like Pfizer to actually get it to patients, both in phase 3 trials and after approvals.
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Are you saying that facts should be suppressed because someone might use them the wrong way? Serious question.
Would you like to also know if a perpetrator was left-handed or ginger or blood type A? No. Because that doesn't matter. Just as ethnicity doesn't matter. Criminal is a criminal.
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Would you like to also know if a perpetrator was left-handed or ginger or blood type A? No. Because that doesn't matter. Just as ethnicity doesn't matter. Criminal is a criminal.
Governments are able to choose which nationalities are allowed entry via immigration policy. Some might find criminal representation very relevant to that policy decision. Perhaps you do not. That’s certainly your prerogative. But outright denying the relevance is absurd.
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I wouldn't sorry too much. We understand a lot of old worries and so we know they don't apply. They have a lot of data from previous forms of this type of things suggesting it is safe. We know the that injected "things" break down very quickly in the body, which again makes us believe there won't be any long term problems. Of course in the end who knows. There could be something, and we may not know for 10 years. On…
> We understand a lot of old worries and so we know they don't apply. What are "old worries"? This is a new type of vaccine. > They have a lot of data from previous forms of this type of things suggesting it is safe. How does this make sense, given this is the first mRNA vaccine? The expression "previous forms of this type of things" is as blurry as it can get. > We know the that injected "things" break down very qui…
> given this is the first mRNA vaccine?
This is not the first mRNA vaccine, they have been using it against cancer for many years. They have had time to look for long term bad effects. If there are any they must be rare because none of been detected yet.
>Heavy metals ...
we also know when they are a problem and when not. This don't contain the bad forms. I don't even need to bother looking this up to state that confidently. The people working on this are not that stupid.
> On the other hand, we know that Covid is killing a large number of people right now.
> It doesn't
several hundred thousand dead already. And Covid is only around 9-10 months old. I didn't even get into long term effects of Covid. I personally have lost family to Covid, and have others who are having a hard time because of long term effects.
>I'm not going to ask for sources
The press release is the main one: no adverse effects noted.
I am going to wait for the science to be published before getting this (or any vaccine). However there is every reason to believe it will be good based on what we do know.
More stories like these might help moderate some of the borderline right wing anti-immigration folks
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Governments are able to choose which nationalities are allowed entry via immigration policy. Some might find criminal representation very relevant to that policy decision. Perhaps you do not. That’s certainly your prerogative. But outright denying the relevance is absurd.
So make anonymized statistics about it. The nationality of any given individual who is alleged to have committed a crime, is not relevant.
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Would you like to also know if a perpetrator was left-handed or ginger or blood type A? No. Because that doesn't matter. Just as ethnicity doesn't matter. Criminal is a criminal.
But we're discussing an article that specifically calls out the researchers ethnicity and the fact they are immigrants. Or are you saying we should only talk about a person's ethnicity when it's in a positive light? Maybe this article should have just said "a German husband-and-wife dream team"?
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Would you like to also know if a perpetrator was left-handed or ginger or blood type A? No. Because that doesn't matter. Just as ethnicity doesn't matter. Criminal is a criminal.
If it turns out left handed people are significantly overrepresented in crime statistics, then yes, that would be interesting to know. Either something is wrong with the system or with left handed people. This notion of withholding information from voting adults just because it doesn't further a particular social engineering agenda is repulsive to be honest.
And if you already know that "left handed people are significantly overrepresented" from some other source, you don't have to make the information public for these cases -- you know it already. Probably from a proper statistic made by the government. Not by counting a media-reported incident also reported the person to be left-handed.