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LSD: The Geek's Wonder Drug

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Re: LSD: The Geek's Wonder Drug

#121

Steve Jobs admits to taking LSD. I rest my case.

On the other hand, I remember reading that Feynman never wanted to mess with his mind and avoided experimenting with drugs.

Surely you're joking.. he talked about experimenting with LSD, marijuana, ketamine, and sensory deprivation tanks. After becoming a heavy drinker he said he eventually gave up alcohol because he didn't want to damage his brain.

Re: LSD: The Geek's Wonder Drug

#123
I'm a bit shocked here about people who expect LSD to make people code better or create better art and if it does not they complain it is "not effective".

Things like LSD (or meditating, running, ...) allow you to to get your mind into a state that enables you to look behind nature, people, society and everything else. It's not a productivity tool and should not be used as such I think :-)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note: Methylphenidate is not actually an amphetamine derivative, although it's similar in structure and function.

Yes, it is a derivative of methamphetamine. Adderall (amphetamine) and Concerta both are used to treat ADD.

Err, no. Methamphetamine is significantly different from methylphenidate. Methylphenidate (Concerta, Ritalin, etc) is more closely related to amphetamine, but still not a derivative. It's like saying that thebaine is a derivative of codeine due to them being similar in structure.

Re: LSD: The Geek's Wonder Drug

#125
Is this really a matter of discovering new patterns? Aren't those patterns just mutations and combinations of already-known patterns?

In that case, wouldn't a better process be to expose yourself to new experiences, especially those that challenge you or take you out of your comfort zones? How about reading books and watching movies you have not viewed before? That would have a similar effect, right?

Re: LSD: The Geek's Wonder Drug

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If you need to take psychedelics to 'unlock the wonders of your mind' or whatever just to do some simple programming, software may not be the field for you.

in the words of dylan - "don't criticize what you can't understand"

Re: LSD: The Geek's Wonder Drug

#127
I've had a relatively drug-free life, although I've often volunteered to be the sober friend while everyone else imbibes. I've never regretted it, I've had some great times not on drugs.

But if you've ever seen Little Miss Sunshine, the grandfather has a perspective on drug use that I've adopted wholeheartedly:

Don't you start taking that shit. When you're young, you're crazy to do that stuff.

What about you?

I'm old! When you're old, you're crazy not to do it.

Re: LSD: The Geek's Wonder Drug

#128

Is this really a matter of discovering new patterns? Aren't those patterns just mutations and combinations of already-known patterns? In that case, wouldn't a better process be to expose yourself to new experiences, especially those that challenge you or take you out of your comfort zones? How about reading books and watching movies you have not viewed before? That would have a similar effect, right?

Are you arguing for it or against it?

>expose yourself to new experiences, especially those that challenge you or take you out of your comfort zones?

I haven't, and am not saying you should, merely pointing out that you seem to object on principle rather than for a reason. Drug "education" when I was in grade school amounted to massive scare tactics, usually without supporting evidence, while they now give you similar things for ADD (but you pay a hell of a lot more, and the chemicals have only existed for a few years). There's a lot of general, unsubstantiated fear in this area, and a lot of irrational trust in drug companies.

Re: LSD: The Geek's Wonder Drug

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry. You're asking me to... enumerate every single problem in software engineering? I don't see the point. How about we take one of the most impressive, extreme cases of software ingenuity: launching the Space Shuttle. http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/06/writestuff.html "But how much work the software does is not what makes it remarkable. What makes it remarkable is how well the software works. This software…

The shuttle is an excellent example of many things, but not necessarily of a conceptually difficult task. It's hard , but it's not mind-bending. The hardest part comes from having to prove the systems correct because lives depend on it.

"Mind-bending" is a bit of a weasel word. What is the difference between "hard" and "mind-bending"?

Do you have any experience of the challenges of spaceflight software to demonstrate that all problems are of "sub-mind-bending" difficulty?

Re: LSD: The Geek's Wonder Drug

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In college I lived with artists. A few of their artist friends come over with big sketch pads, pencils and whatever else artists use. They all drop acid while telling me they can't wait to see their amazing creations once their minds are opened. I went out for a few hours and came back to find them all sitting around the living room. One sketch pad had a long black squiggle on it, the same design you'd make if you fe…

It was not functioning as a tool... immediately? It's a interesting experience, if they couldn't produce it while it was happening it that doesn't mean it didn't influence them in the long run.
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